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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-698</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Matt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 12:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When ARod&#039;s name came out, not only was there no face-saving union rep to all but discredit the results of the 03 testing but he got on NATIONAL TELEVISION and admitted his faults and apologized, but when papi gets his the union reps come to his aid as quick as possible, when I&#039;ve never seen a more obvious sign of one&#039;s &#039;roid use than papi&#039;s season statline, while papi himself is going to sit behind worthless excuses and still get the majority&#039;s support.  If baseball&#039;s union is going to defend one, they should have defended all the exact same the second any mention of any name from this list was leaked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When ARod&#8217;s name came out, not only was there no face-saving union rep to all but discredit the results of the 03 testing but he got on NATIONAL TELEVISION and admitted his faults and apologized, but when papi gets his the union reps come to his aid as quick as possible, when I&#8217;ve never seen a more obvious sign of one&#8217;s &#8216;roid use than papi&#8217;s season statline, while papi himself is going to sit behind worthless excuses and still get the majority&#8217;s support.  If baseball&#8217;s union is going to defend one, they should have defended all the exact same the second any mention of any name from this list was leaked.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-697</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 10:41:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gee, just when he started taking his &quot;vitamins&quot; he saved himself from being released by Minnesota and all of a sudden began hitting hrs. Couldn&#039;t field. If not for &quot;vitamins&quot; and a DH spot he&#039;s unemployable in sports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, just when he started taking his &#8220;vitamins&#8221; he saved himself from being released by Minnesota and all of a sudden began hitting hrs. Couldn&#8217;t field. If not for &#8220;vitamins&#8221; and a DH spot he&#8217;s unemployable in sports.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-696</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 09:24:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All of the Baseball &quot;people&quot; need to get over the steroids controversy.  The fans, players, managers,union, Bud Selig and managment, past players, etc.... For twenty years they were using steroids of one sort of the other.  Everyone turned a blind eye.  It wasn&#039;t until high school kids started to use it, all of the other major league sports had a program and congress told Baseball you get one in place or we will did Baseball come up with a strong steroids program.
By the way, I think all records should stand and those who qualify with or without steroids should get into the Hall of Fame.  Baseball deserves it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of the Baseball &#8220;people&#8221; need to get over the steroids controversy.  The fans, players, managers,union, Bud Selig and managment, past players, etc&#8230;. For twenty years they were using steroids of one sort of the other.  Everyone turned a blind eye.  It wasn&#8217;t until high school kids started to use it, all of the other major league sports had a program and congress told Baseball you get one in place or we will did Baseball come up with a strong steroids program.<br />
By the way, I think all records should stand and those who qualify with or without steroids should get into the Hall of Fame.  Baseball deserves it!</p>
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		<title>By: RobWarwick</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RobWarwick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 08:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am just so sick of this crap.  I NO LONGER CARE!!   I REPEAT.....I DO NOT CARE!  And neither does anyone else based on attendence figures and TV viewership.  SO ENUFF!
There are only two names left in the sport that would actually surprise me and bother me if it were revealed they used performance enhancing drugs....Jeter and Griffey Jr.   That&#039;s it.  Everyone else, it would not surprise me in the least.  Nor do I care.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just so sick of this crap.  I NO LONGER CARE!!   I REPEAT&#8230;..I DO NOT CARE!  And neither does anyone else based on attendence figures and TV viewership.  SO ENUFF!<br />
There are only two names left in the sport that would actually surprise me and bother me if it were revealed they used performance enhancing drugs&#8230;.Jeter and Griffey Jr.   That&#8217;s it.  Everyone else, it would not surprise me in the least.  Nor do I care.</p>
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		<title>By: M Putvin</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-694</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[M Putvin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 07:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here&#039;s the thing. A number of substances have been banned but are not performance enhancing steroids. How many false positives have come up in the years?
I call this a rush to judgement and the media once again blowing things out of proportion and to many people buy it.
Notice how careful the media is in not coming out and saying steroids...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the thing. A number of substances have been banned but are not performance enhancing steroids. How many false positives have come up in the years?<br />
I call this a rush to judgement and the media once again blowing things out of proportion and to many people buy it.<br />
Notice how careful the media is in not coming out and saying steroids&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: MikeNE</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-693</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MikeNE]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 03:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is good stuff for sports writer people.  It attracts alot of attention, is easy to write about and makes for great ratings and tons of hits on blogs like this.
It doesn&#039;t take a huge amount of brain cells to figure out that all of this is pretty much a great game for the writers, lawyers and blog interests and given the way things work it follows that they are somehow involved in &quot;leaking&quot; names a little bit at a time.  This will play out over several years.  Follow the money...Remember to follow the money.
This whole thing is a Duck....meaning....If it looks like a Duck and it Quacks like a Duck then its probably a Duck.
Between the media and the lawyers it just stinks like crap.  I bet you that these fed &quot;lawyers&quot; are getting a kick-back for leaking this stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good stuff for sports writer people.  It attracts alot of attention, is easy to write about and makes for great ratings and tons of hits on blogs like this.<br />
It doesn&#8217;t take a huge amount of brain cells to figure out that all of this is pretty much a great game for the writers, lawyers and blog interests and given the way things work it follows that they are somehow involved in &#8220;leaking&#8221; names a little bit at a time.  This will play out over several years.  Follow the money&#8230;Remember to follow the money.<br />
This whole thing is a Duck&#8230;.meaning&#8230;.If it looks like a Duck and it Quacks like a Duck then its probably a Duck.<br />
Between the media and the lawyers it just stinks like crap.  I bet you that these fed &#8220;lawyers&#8221; are getting a kick-back for leaking this stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: A Devoted Follower</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-692</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[A Devoted Follower]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 01:55:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Can we please quit whining about the fact that people tested positive back in 2003? It was not against the rules at the time. There are laws in this country that prevent any criminal from being charged for a crime they committed that was not illegal at the time it was committed, so why is it ok to attack those who ALLEGEDLY used something (although they cannot say what it was, thus we don&#039;t even know if it was a steroid) during a time that it was not a crime?&quot;
Please shut up until you know what you&#039;re talking about.
Baseball banned steroids in the &#039;90s. Look it up. They didn&#039;t begin to enforce it until much later, but they were banned when Bonds, A-Roid, Ortiz, etc. took them.
They&#039;re also a controlled substance, making possession illegal.
Illegal and banned by baseball.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can we please quit whining about the fact that people tested positive back in 2003? It was not against the rules at the time. There are laws in this country that prevent any criminal from being charged for a crime they committed that was not illegal at the time it was committed, so why is it ok to attack those who ALLEGEDLY used something (although they cannot say what it was, thus we don&#8217;t even know if it was a steroid) during a time that it was not a crime?&#8221;<br />
Please shut up until you know what you&#8217;re talking about.<br />
Baseball banned steroids in the &#8217;90s. Look it up. They didn&#8217;t begin to enforce it until much later, but they were banned when Bonds, A-Roid, Ortiz, etc. took them.<br />
They&#8217;re also a controlled substance, making possession illegal.<br />
Illegal and banned by baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: filmdude</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[filmdude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another high and mighty journalist, beating a dead horse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another high and mighty journalist, beating a dead horse.</p>
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		<title>By: filmdude</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[filmdude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 00:16:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did some players take supplements, HGH, and steroids to get an edge, or to recover from injury?  Yes. Did they cheat?  No.
If you think otherwise, we should look at the cocaine era of the 80&#039;s, and the amphetamine era of the 60&#039;s... who knows when steroid use in baseball actually began.
Can we drop this already? Or should we all act high and mighty, and continue to judge based on ILLEGALLY leaked information?  Because we all know individuals in the media have no skeletons in the closet, and have always made the right choice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did some players take supplements, HGH, and steroids to get an edge, or to recover from injury?  Yes. Did they cheat?  No.<br />
If you think otherwise, we should look at the cocaine era of the 80&#8242;s, and the amphetamine era of the 60&#8242;s&#8230; who knows when steroid use in baseball actually began.<br />
Can we drop this already? Or should we all act high and mighty, and continue to judge based on ILLEGALLY leaked information?  Because we all know individuals in the media have no skeletons in the closet, and have always made the right choice.</p>
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		<title>By: RIC</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-689</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RIC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The FDA recently recalled a handful of supplements because some were found to contain steroids or synthetic steroid-like substances.  Dating back to 2003, there are plenty more that have been yanked off the shelves for this type of thing.
Testing positive because of something in a supplement is not the same thing as running to Johnny Juicer or Balco to obtain an edge.
I&#039;m inclined to give all of these guys the benefit of the doubt until we know exactly what they tested positive for or why they are on the list.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FDA recently recalled a handful of supplements because some were found to contain steroids or synthetic steroid-like substances.  Dating back to 2003, there are plenty more that have been yanked off the shelves for this type of thing.<br />
Testing positive because of something in a supplement is not the same thing as running to Johnny Juicer or Balco to obtain an edge.<br />
I&#8217;m inclined to give all of these guys the benefit of the doubt until we know exactly what they tested positive for or why they are on the list.</p>
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		<title>By: bh0673</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-688</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bh0673]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree it is time to put this behind us and move forward but I still think the whoever is leaking the names should be named and prosecuted. Maybe it is time the judge who sealed the list should grom a set and subpena slime like Selens Roberts and make her expose the snitch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it is time to put this behind us and move forward but I still think the whoever is leaking the names should be named and prosecuted. Maybe it is time the judge who sealed the list should grom a set and subpena slime like Selens Roberts and make her expose the snitch.</p>
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		<title>By: bh0673</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bh0673]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree it is time to put this behind us and move forward but I still think the whoever is leaking the names should be named and prosecuted. Maybe it is time the judge who sealed the list should grom a set and subpena slime like Selens Roberts and make her expose the snitch.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it is time to put this behind us and move forward but I still think the whoever is leaking the names should be named and prosecuted. Maybe it is time the judge who sealed the list should grom a set and subpena slime like Selens Roberts and make her expose the snitch.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/08/08/ortiz-apologizes-mlb-confuses/comment-page-1/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Don]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:32:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Until it comes out as true and is in black and white, I think everybody, especially sports writers and commentators should get off their high horses. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? It makes me sick. If the players did this, then punish them accordingly, BUT WAIT UNTIL IT&#039;S PROVEN!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Until it comes out as true and is in black and white, I think everybody, especially sports writers and commentators should get off their high horses. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? It makes me sick. If the players did this, then punish them accordingly, BUT WAIT UNTIL IT&#8217;S PROVEN!</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why do people keep saying steriods were notbanned back then?  THEY WERE ILLEGAL TO HAVE.  just because MLB did not &#039;ban&#039; them the mere possession of them was against the law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do people keep saying steriods were notbanned back then?  THEY WERE ILLEGAL TO HAVE.  just because MLB did not &#8216;ban&#8217; them the mere possession of them was against the law.</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oscar]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 16:09:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Can we please quit whining about the fact that people tested positive back in 2003?  It was not against the rules at the time.  There are laws in this country that prevent any criminal from being charged for a crime they committed that was not illegal at the time it was committed, so why is it ok to attack those who ALLEGEDLY used something (although they cannot say what it was, thus we don&#039;t even know if it was a steroid) during a time that it was not a crime?
Another issue that disgusts me is the leaking of the names by anonymous lawyers.  I think it&#039;s time that someone turn around and start leaking the names of the cowardly people who have been breaking the law and find out their opinion on having promised confidentiality stripped from them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can we please quit whining about the fact that people tested positive back in 2003?  It was not against the rules at the time.  There are laws in this country that prevent any criminal from being charged for a crime they committed that was not illegal at the time it was committed, so why is it ok to attack those who ALLEGEDLY used something (although they cannot say what it was, thus we don&#8217;t even know if it was a steroid) during a time that it was not a crime?<br />
Another issue that disgusts me is the leaking of the names by anonymous lawyers.  I think it&#8217;s time that someone turn around and start leaking the names of the cowardly people who have been breaking the law and find out their opinion on having promised confidentiality stripped from them.</p>
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