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Which managers are on thin ice?

Aug 30, 2009, 11:35 AM EDT

There’s no discussion there, but Phil Rogers throws out Dusty Baker, Eric Wedge, Jim Riggleman, Cecil Cooper and Dave Trembley as managers who may be looking for a job soon. Setting aside the glaring omission of Trey Hillman, here are my insta-takes:

  • I’m not a huge Baker fan, but there’s a lot more wrong with the Reds than him, so the Reds may as well keep him around since they’ll have to pay him anyway;
  • Eric Wedge should go. He’s had a long time to do something in Cleveland and they could use a fresh start;
  • Riggleman has done good work, but the Nats need to enter the Strasburg-era with someone a little more dynamic at the helm;
  • Cooper was thrown under the bus by his team’s ace starter and team leader, so he’s a dead man walking already; and
  • Trembley has been a good company man, but he has lost so much for so long with the Orioles, that one wonders if he can be the guy to take a team with a bright future to the next level.  It just strikes me that, when a team is about to turn the corner, you don’t want a guy who is a constant reminder of all of those years in the wilderness, ya know?
  • As happens every year, I’m sure one of these obvious suspects will somehow hang on, and some guys we never thought would get fired.  And as is the case with their decisions as managers, we will be right here to second guess and armchair GM their firings as well.

    1. dsmith - Aug 30, 2009 at 12:38 PM

      who is this phucking idiot? he certainly doesn’t know anything about sports. Just a gossiping little bitch. Herk off!

    2. BRUCE J. TURNER - Aug 30, 2009 at 2:05 PM

      As far as these managers that everyone thinks aren’t doing their jobs, it seems like every year the Orioles begin the season with a half-decent pitching staff and then by the trading deadline they pawn their good pitchers for bats and then nobody hears a lick of them. Dusty Baker is a good manager and he proved that at San Francisco. He can only do what he can with the talent he has. I agree that the Nationals needs to start a new with their new phemom pitcher. He is going to be an ace starter in about two to three years and he needs a core built around him. Eric Wedge of Cleveland did something I couldn’t believe. He traded his ace Cy Young Award winning pitcher to the Phillies. What is with that?
      It wouldn’t surprise me if all four of the managers on the fence are standing in the unemployment line over the offseason. Good luck to them all.

    3. Emdew - Aug 30, 2009 at 2:15 PM

      Sportswriters are the people who flunked “Weather 101”.

    4. Joseph M. Delgado - Aug 30, 2009 at 2:56 PM

      Let’ s keep it real folks; although the five head coaches mentioned as ‘soon to lose their job’ may warrant terminiation, the teams that employ them are not exactly stellar organizations with perenial winning records.

    5. JK - Aug 30, 2009 at 3:18 PM

      Wedge traded his ace? I didn’t know that he had GM authority. Besides, it happened last year when they traded Sabbathia to Milwaukee. It happens fairly often in baseball. A team, normally a smaller market one, has an ace that everyone else wants. They won’t be able to afford him once the contract is up, so he’s traded away for prospects. Pittsburgh is derided as the majors’ farm club, being raided every year around mid-July or sooner.

    6. BK Man - Aug 30, 2009 at 3:35 PM

      Riggleman should be fired for accepting the National’s job. That implies someone who’s desperate & lacking decision skills.
      While we’re at it, can someone mandate a change in ownership, GM, president for the Nationals? Has there been a worse run franchise ever? Even if Strasburg works out, the best that will happen for Nationals is they trade him for 3 minor leaguers before the next contract.

    7. Kim - Aug 30, 2009 at 3:56 PM

      Eric Wedge must go. If you watch the Indians, he managed that team like a little league team. Just trying to get everyone in, not knowing who should go where, keeping people out that should be in. NO ONE could ever get into a rhythm. The fact is though, Cleveland is a market for the rich teams. Our best players ALWAYS get traded at the end of the season when we are in next to last or last place. That’s the way it is. They have to get some young talent in there again and sign them to long term deals, but we need another manager at the helm. Go away Wedgie!

    8. hop - Aug 30, 2009 at 6:13 PM

      How can Cito Gaston not be on the hot seat? He has totally lost that team and after starting off the season really good they just have completely tanked and show zero signs of life. He should be the first to go, terrible the job he is doing there.

    9. Ryan - Aug 30, 2009 at 8:28 PM

      Since when did a team’s manager make the trades? I don’t think you can really blame Eric Wedge for Lee being traded away…blame the GM.

    10. bh0673 - Aug 30, 2009 at 8:59 PM

      HOP the Blue Jays did get off to a great start but if you look at the schedual it was an easy April then in May they had to face division rivals and fell back into reality.
      As far as Cleveland and Baltimore they don’t need new managers they need new owners. Both teams went from contenders with constant sell outs to losing clubs when the had ownership changes. I don’t care who wither team brings in to manage unless ownership wants to spend in order to win they will continue to lose. Just a point here Charlie Manuel was fired by Cleveland but took Philly to the World Series.

    11. Grant - Aug 30, 2009 at 9:43 PM

      I hardly think trading George Sherrill makes that much of a difference, especially since they also picked up Cla Meredith. This post seems rather poorly reasoned.

      As an O’s fan, I think Trembley is a terrible in-game manager and should probably be let go.

    12. largebill - Aug 31, 2009 at 8:42 AM

      Wedge should go, but I’m not completely convinced he’ll be canned. He has a knack of getting on these late season runs that somehow save his job. Preppy Shapiro canned Charlie Manuel because he couldn’t relate to (and probably felt threatened by) an old school baseball guy. Charlie may have talked a little funny but he’s no dummy and he can relate to his players without being a pushover. Conversely, almost every year there is a young player or two that Wedge can’t seem to get through. When it is one guy (Bradley) it is easy to conclude it was the player’s fault. However, when he consistently fails to get potential talent to develop and he gives up prematurely on multiple players (Bradley, Phillips, Barfield, Marte, . . . . ) then maybe it isn’t the player as much as the in over his head manager.

    13. BigGreek - Aug 31, 2009 at 10:56 AM

      Gaston won’t get fired because of the hot start the Blue Jays got off to and the fact they play in what is the toughest division in Baseball. The GM may be on thin ice, however. The owners love Gaston as he is a reminder of the Blue Jays last success back in the early 1990’s. What I find funny is that he is a two-time world champion manager and he couldn’t get another job until the Blue Jays brought him back.

    14. SoCalRedsFan - Aug 31, 2009 at 11:38 AM

      Bruce, you obviously haven’t followed the Reds much, and probably don’t know much about Baker’s tenure with the Giants. HE’S A HORRIBLE MANAGER. Sure the Reds have had plenty of problems, mostly due to injuries, but when you bat your two lowest OBP players 1st and 2nd, and do that for 2 years straight while everyone else just shakes their heads, then yes, you are a horrible manager. Baker thinks that only a Centerfielder and SS can bat 1st and 2nd; and doesn’t care about their performance. FIRE HIM NOW!!!

    15. coachwilson - Aug 31, 2009 at 1:22 PM

      And who exactly Mr. GM should take his place? Think about this…the manager has to work with what he’s given. Well, I am a high school coach and you have to work with what you have been given, trust me I know!!!. You said it yourself, “our players are traded away at the end of every season” and I guess that is Wedgie’s fault too huh?. You say he manages the team like a little league team huh? If you want Wedgie gone, that is one thing. But to blame him for having to play his “little league” players, except Sizemore, Cabrera, Peralta, and Shoppach, then you are WAAAAAAAAY off base and need to point some fingers elsewhere (Mark Shapiro comes to mind)I think he has done a heck of a job since V-Mart, Lee, DeRosa, and Pavano have been gone. I was one of the people that was extremely pissed when those deals went down, but that isn’t Wedgie’s fault. Then again, from reading your comments, the Kerry Wood’s “great signing” was Wedgie’s fault too.

    16. John - Aug 31, 2009 at 3:23 PM

      Phil Rogers is an idiot. “Too much wrong with the Reds”. Oh really? The Reds are the most injury ravaged team in baseball with 13 players currently on the DL. What was the Reds record before the rash of injuries?

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