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Attacking Red Sox Nation

Sep 2, 2009, 10:55 AM EDT

Those of us outside the Nation do it all the time, but it’s not often you see it on the pages of the Boston Globe.  Take it away Tom Scocca!

What the Red Sox most resemble, here in 2009, is some unholy amalgamation of the postwar Brooklyn Dodgers and the Grateful Dead. The Dodgers have been mythologized by fans like Doris Kearns Goodwin – not by chance, a vocal member of Red Sox Nation – as lovable underdogs, but in their day they were neither underdogs nor lovable. They were simply the second-biggest bullies in baseball, a rich and successful franchise that could be counted on to beat up the rest of the National League and to get beaten up on by the Yankees.

Red Sox fans don’t even wait for the passage of time to worship the mysteries of their own team. The blue-shirted, pink-hatted crowds descend on other cities’ ballparks for a mass smug-in whenever the Sox are on the road . . . Like Deadheads, they’re indifferent to what city they’ve trailed into, so long as they’re bathing in the presence of like-minded worshippers: Yoooook! Duuuuude!

Rebuttals and concurrences can be submitted in the comments.

  1. Church of the Perpetually Outraged - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:08 PM

    “Believe nothing you read and only half of what you see”.
    Wait, how am I supposed to follow this, if I have to read it? Because by reading it, I’m not supposed to believe it? But you want me to believe it, which makes the statement false.
    I r confuzed

  2. Joe Bowman - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:11 PM

    If any of those teams you mention were ever in contentin it would be a miracle. Actually lots of people like the Sox and Yankee competition as opposed to the boring crap from so many other parts of the country. Competition sells. The guy who wrote that article was probably just learning to write, and we know nothing gets you noticed like controvery. I AM A PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION….You are a jerk and are jealous.

  3. ecp - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    Why is it that Yankee or Sox fans automatically assume that those of use who are not on the edge of our seats holding our breath at every Yanks-Sox game are automatically jealous jerks who are just learning how to write? This is exactly the attitude that puts us off.
    Actually, I don’t mind watching the Yankee-Sox competition at all. As you say, I’m one of those who kind of likes it. I just don’t want it shoved down my throat on the national broadcast all 18 times they play. Yeah, really: A little diversity is nice.

  4. C - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:28 PM

    How is this unique to the sox? many teams have fan bases like that. lakers, celtics, cowboys. the yankees just as much as the red sox. at least red sox fans are mostly displaced north easteners. a good amount of people in yankees hats wear them to make some fashion statement and because their favorite rap artist wears it (see 50 cent). they couldn’t name three people on the team besides jeter and a-rod. even sox fans know the yankees roster for the most part.

  5. Dave - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:31 PM

    Why am i not suprised by all the Red Sox and Yankee rubes that feel the need to defend their teams. Take it from someone who is not a yankee or red sox fan, everyone else does feel that the yankees/red sox are some kind of $ driven abomination of all that is right with the sport. It wasnt so before the sox won the WS-but they have become that as of late. And as others have said, ESPN and the media is a large part of that hate-All you need to do is look at the nationally televised games and see that the majority are of those two teams. (great article supporting this:http://www.chicitysports.com/2009/08/11/east-coast-baseball-bias/)
    So while you homers may like to pretend it isnt so-i’m sorry to say that the non yankees/red sox fans hate your teams.

  6. Chris - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:39 PM

    I HATE THE REDSOX AND THE YANKEES! I’M FROM BOSTON AND EVERYONE AROUND HERE REMINDS ME OF HOW MUCH I LOOK FORWARD TO LEAVING THIS GOD AWFUL PLACE CALLED NEW ENGLAND!!!

  7. gleas27 - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    There is nothing wrong with an organization being passionate about winning…it’s funny pre-2004 they were lovable loser’s, but they win a couple of championships and all of a sudden they are bullies and hated. Jealousy is an ugly ugly thing. Be passionate about your team, our national pasttime, your life…otherwise what’s the point?! Enough of the hate already!

  8. Hovey - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    Hey,
    It has been a long time since the Sox have been even close to the Yankees, at least in salaries. The Yankees, Mets and Cubs all spend more than the Sox and the Tigers, Angels and Phillies are right on there heels. Considering the size of Boston,(600,000 people) it is amazing the Sox have developed such a far reaching “Nation”. Good for them, good for the fans who travel to see the team. If only every baseball city could develop such a fan base, MLB would be rolling in money more than they are now. If you don’t like the Nation, too bad build your own and then you won’t notice it anymore.
    Team 2008 payroll 2009 payroll
    Yankees $209,081,577 $201,449,189
    Mets $137,793,376 $149,373,987
    Cubs $118,345,833 $134,809,000
    Red Sox $133,390,035 $121,745,999
    Tigers $137,685,196 $115,085,145
    Angels $119,216,333 $113,709,000
    Phillies $98,269,880 $113,004,046
    Astros $88,930,414 $102,996,414
    Dodgers $118,588,536 $100,414,592
    Mariners $117,666,482 $98,904,166

  9. Hovey - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:52 PM

    Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out. :)

  10. zj - Sep 2, 2009 at 1:58 PM

    Actually, the Red Sox payroll has been 4th in the league for two straight years. Still high, but not second. Not that facts mean anything in this debate. Carry on people.

  11. Elduderer - Sep 2, 2009 at 2:08 PM

    Hey Red Sox fans do me a favor. Even for me as a Yankee fan when they werent as good as they are now didnt call them #1 when there not. Give it a rest you had your 2 championships this decade now it’s ober accept it move on.

  12. baseballfan - Sep 2, 2009 at 2:19 PM

    What terrible people Red Sox fans are. We support our team, whether at home or away. Recently I went to a Sox game at Camden yards and Red Sox fans outnumbered Oriole fans. Thank god I am a Red Sox fan. I mean, is being an Orioles an the alternative? No thanks.

  13. Mark - Sep 2, 2009 at 2:20 PM

    Bye Chris …. we will all miss you …
    who was that again?

  14. Aries - Sep 2, 2009 at 2:30 PM

    If you read the entire article (which wasn’t supplied, but is located in the Boston Globe), this article was written by an Orioles fan. It’s not a “Red Sox are number one,” or “Yanks/Bosox” article. It talks about the fact that fans are passionate, and some fans are more passionate than others. Even if you “hate” a team or its fans, you should still be able to respect them to some degree.

  15. shely - Sep 2, 2009 at 2:38 PM

    Gate:
    You are absolutely correct. The game went 7, not 6. The hitter was Walker, but not Cooper. It was Harry Walker. Sorry for the oversight. It was however, a single, and not a double. Pesky admitted he was the reason for the score. Actually, I have heard some time ago that Pesky was not really the goat, however it was his stupid team mates who did not relay to him that Enos was rounding third and to throw home. His back was to the play, so someone should have said something, but there was silence from the pitcher, catcher, and 3rd base. So, they were all losers, not just Pesky.
    Shely.

  16. RedSox1935 - Sep 2, 2009 at 2:42 PM

    The pink is for the Jimmy Fund which is for cancer. Which NE
    and Red Sox nation helped to raise more than 4.6M last week.

  17. HOTROD - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:07 PM

    DID YOU EVER HEAR ABOUT A TEAM CALLED THE YANKEES ????

  18. HOTROD - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:10 PM

    SECOND PLACE IS FOR THE FIRST LOSER, JUST WHAT BOSTON IS, LOSERS

  19. len - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:17 PM

    who cares about the sox or their fans..??? they’re so yesterday !!!

  20. HOTROD - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    Craigs brain waves are on a 5 year delay …….

  21. HOTROD - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:31 PM

    TOM,U R SO RIGHT SUPPORT YOUR TEAM, TODAY EVERYONE COMPLAINS ABOUT THE TEAM WHO PUT A GOOD PRODUCT ON THE FIELD LIKE THE SAUX AND YANKEES. I DON’T THINK TORONTO AND KANSAS CITY OWNERSHIP COMPLAIN WHEN THE SAUX AND YANKS ARE IN TOWN AND THEY SELL OUT THEIR STADIUM. THESE PATHETIC OWNERS FILL THEIR POCKET WITH REVENUE SHARING MONEY THEN PUT OUT A 15 MILLION PAYROLL, THEN THEY TRADE THEIR PLAYERS AND CUT SALARY AFTER THE ALLSTAR BREAK, THAT IS DISPICABLE.

  22. Doracle - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:34 PM

    In addition to hating A-Rod, Craig is also a big fan of cancer…..

  23. Mikee - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:36 PM

    Please, this is a band of fans that actually created “Red Sox Nation”, elected a president (Jerry Remy, who’s son was dealing Roids in the Sox clubhouse), and then charge it’s members a fee just so they can carry a lamented card and show it to people. Only team/fans I know that look forward to a tragedy or old team member to drop dead so they can “have the nation identify” and create a tradition. One final note, everyone outside of MA. knows “Youk” lost the Porcello fight. Inside of MA. they will argue that “Porcello ran away” (took 5 steps back)even though Youk got tossed, planted, mounted and then had his head pressed into the turf.

  24. Craig Calcaterra - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:37 PM

    Love cancer. Can’t get enough of it.

  25. glp - Sep 2, 2009 at 3:41 PM

    Umm, HOTROD…Please give an example of exactly when the Royals have traded players to cut salary after the All Star break in the last ten years. Just one year. Go ahead, I’ll wait while you find an example…
    No? Can’t find one? Maybe because that’s because THERE ISN’T ONE. And no, the Beltran, Dye and Damon trades don’t count, because the point of those wasn’t to cut salary.
    Next time check your facts before spouting your shooting off your keyboard.

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