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Attacking Red Sox Nation

Sep 2, 2009, 10:55 AM EDT

Those of us outside the Nation do it all the time, but it’s not often you see it on the pages of the Boston Globe.  Take it away Tom Scocca!

What the Red Sox most resemble, here in 2009, is some unholy amalgamation of the postwar Brooklyn Dodgers and the Grateful Dead. The Dodgers have been mythologized by fans like Doris Kearns Goodwin – not by chance, a vocal member of Red Sox Nation – as lovable underdogs, but in their day they were neither underdogs nor lovable. They were simply the second-biggest bullies in baseball, a rich and successful franchise that could be counted on to beat up the rest of the National League and to get beaten up on by the Yankees.

Red Sox fans don’t even wait for the passage of time to worship the mysteries of their own team. The blue-shirted, pink-hatted crowds descend on other cities’ ballparks for a mass smug-in whenever the Sox are on the road . . . Like Deadheads, they’re indifferent to what city they’ve trailed into, so long as they’re bathing in the presence of like-minded worshippers: Yoooook! Duuuuude!

Rebuttals and concurrences can be submitted in the comments.

  1. thealps - Sep 3, 2009 at 2:22 PM

    Its obvious why people from Massachuetts can’t wait to leave that state so it’s not so diificult to see them living in other ststes. New Yorkers don’t have reason to leave the “greatest city on earth”.

  2. Joey B - Sep 3, 2009 at 3:34 PM

    Cute little ballpark, soldout games, a large payroll, and 2nd to the NYY.
    The RS? No, actually it was Baltimore when they first opened Camden Yards. Great fun, wasn’t it? But the fans abandoned it, and the management and ownership ran a good franchise into the ground.
    The original article, while barely readable, still didn’t explain why the RS (& the NYY to some extent) should be hated. Is there a problem with attending games? Is there a problem with management taking the money we give them and re-investing it? Is it our fault that no one in TO, BA, or TB wants to go to any of their games? In the middle of a pennant race, there have been about 15,000 at the two RS/TB games. Did anyone in TB actually go to the game?
    What this boils down to is that no one in BA, TO, and TB gives a hoot about their team. The fans in Boston and NY suuport their team. We deserve a good team more than you do. The same goes with St. Louis, the Cubs, LA, and a couple of others. When you start supporting your team like we do, then you’ll wind up with a better team.

  3. Mike - Sep 5, 2009 at 12:21 AM

    You’re all retarded.

  4. Steinbrenner Jr. - Sep 5, 2009 at 6:25 PM

    I can’t believe these Red Sox, and their fans, have turned me into a Yankee fan.

  5. DustinFan - Sep 6, 2009 at 9:02 AM

    Well I agree with the criticism that the Red Sox aren’t as “fun” a team to watch, but they ain’t the corporate Yanks.
    Dustin Pedoria is one “fun” character guy on the Sox who gets no credit for being one, probalby because he appears so annoyingly cocky. But watch him in this tire ads http://bit.ly/pedroiaTV or taking a shot at the beloved RemDawg http://bit.ly/jerryremy
    Once Pedroia make it his team…the Sox of old will be back.

  6. Motherscratcher - Sep 9, 2009 at 12:38 AM

    Pete Rose is laying 10-1 odds that Shelby in Cinci has at least 3 cats.

  7. H R Coursen - Sep 12, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Red Sox history is hardly glorious. While the Dodgers were building a dynasty around great black players — Jackie, Campanella, Newcombe — Red Sox were wasting years in second place. And finally — Pumpsie Green! The Red Sox had “tried out” Jackie. Imagine what would have happened had they looked at him with eyes untainted by racism.

  8. frank r - Sep 13, 2009 at 7:18 AM

    Just a note of interest. Four major sports if you will, MLB-NFL-NBA-NHL. Boston has more combined championships than New York. Like most who seem to be tired of Red Sox nation, some of us are tired about hearing constantly about the past Yankees. Also for information, when you join Red Sox nation, you receive a cap-two tickets for a game and a tour of Fenway.(not just a card to show off). Worthy of mention in my view is how I enjoy seeing all the Yankee empty seats right behind home-plate every game.

  9. Mike - Sep 14, 2009 at 2:58 PM

    They sound suspiciously like the Cubs…except the Cubs really do suck.

  10. Stro - Sep 15, 2009 at 3:36 PM

    What a perfect day it would be…sox day game followed by a Dead show!

  11. SoxFan - Sep 16, 2009 at 8:13 AM

    I don’t get why everyone hates Red Sox fans so much- you don’t see me come on a message board, and slam the Cardinals, the Angels or hell, even the Yankees! Not everyone who is a die-hard Sox fan is a blithering idiot, sure there are a few, but you can say that for any team. I don’t wear a pink hat and blue shirt to games, and to be honest, 99.98% of the other people at the game are wearing Sox gear. Baseball in Boston is surreal, every game has an intense atmosphere, the stadium is always sold out, it’s the place to be. Maybe if you would back away from the keyboard and go to a game, your stadiums would be similar. Why not pull your heads out of your asses and support your own team, instead of whining about mine?

  12. Joey B - Sep 23, 2009 at 9:12 AM

    “Maybe if you would back away from the keyboard and go to a game, your stadiums would be similar. Why not pull your heads out of your asses and support your own team, instead of whining about mine?”
    My point exactly. Boston is not a very big city, and yet the local support them. It’s the same with St. Louis, the Cubs, the NYY, and a couple of other clubs.
    The day after the newness of their stadiums wore off, fans abandoned the Orioles and the Indians. If you stop going to the games, the owners can’t spend money that they don’t have. My friends and I split NYY season tickets. These people in BA and CL and elswhere should simply call up three of their friends, buy two season tickets, or four half-year plans, and split them up.
    You can either sit here and whine about the big beating you up, or you can defend yourselves.

  13. Joek - Sep 23, 2009 at 3:22 PM

    You shut-up. Smug personified.

  14. Sweet Caroline - Sep 23, 2009 at 4:49 PM

    Good times never seemed so good…so good ! so good !
    What you got, mofo ?

  15. jim - Sep 24, 2009 at 12:25 PM

    i know i’m late to the game here, but regarding your post (edited version of what i posted there)…
    My issue with this (story) is where is the discussion of ratings? of course EPSN is going to put more teams that have the larger audiences on! [see who's going to games in poor attendance cities, Red Sox and Yankees fans] also, time zones? how many of these games had 8PM ET (or before) starts? You’re not going to get a lot of LAA fans on board at 5PM.

  16. Mike - Sep 24, 2009 at 2:24 PM

    I’ve been a RedSox Nation fan since long before there were sold out games and winning seasons. The Boston-New York rivalry is the best rivalry in sports, especially now since the yankees choked in 2004 and we won a second title in 2007 to prove 2004 was no fluke. Phooey on this writer for popping the Sox.
    Hate the yankees but respect em. Hate the RedSox but respect em.
    Next topic please.

  17. bill - Sep 24, 2009 at 2:51 PM

    Hey Craig,cancer is not enjoyable.Have a good time with it.

  18. Michael Zettler - Sep 25, 2009 at 10:08 AM

    Hockey’s a major sport?
    -z-

  19. planktonDisciple - Sep 26, 2009 at 11:08 AM

    I grew up outside of NY, spent 15 years in Boston and have lived all over the country. I see that Northeastern people have a way of rubbing much of the country the wrong way, doesn’t matter if you’re from NY, Boston or Philly, most of the country sees you as the loudmouth azzholes you are, which is why I keep coming home! I love you guys.

  20. Nick Whitman - Sep 26, 2009 at 7:30 PM

    They’re actually fourth, moron.

  21. bh0673 - Sep 28, 2009 at 6:20 AM

    Actually Red Sox fans are worse, true Yankee fans may pound their chests and shout words of Bravado but it is usually in fun. Red Sox fans are more psychotic and many times are looking for the fight not the fun the rivalry brings. Not to say it applies to all Sox fans but they take it more to heart and live by the wins and losses.

  22. bh0673 - Sep 28, 2009 at 6:22 AM

    Jim you hit the nail on the head the Yankee brass spends money on the team something few other owners do for their fans.

  23. John - Sep 28, 2009 at 9:26 PM

    Nice article-one sentence and an article from a newspaper. Sox fans are so freakin’ jealous of the Yankees it’s not funny. Get a life. Real Yankee fans don’t hate the sox or their fans-we just tolerate you-like pesky bugs-mosquitos,chiggers,etc.-life’s routine annoyances

  24. Albany56 - Oct 1, 2009 at 8:18 AM

    “Get a life. Real Yankee fans don’t hate the sox or their fans-we just tolerate you-like pesky bugs-mosquitos,chiggers,etc.-life’s routine annoyances”
    Speaking of get a life…Grow up John – You sound like you’re 10 years old.

  25. David VIne - Oct 2, 2009 at 10:23 AM

    As a Phillies fan, we had sufferted at least as much as Red Sox fans. (Not to mention Cubs fans; who has suffered more than them???) I actually rooted for the Red Sox in 2004 because I thought if they won a W.S. than they’d finally shut the hell up! But no! They became even MORE obnoxious! It’s enoguh to make a lifelong Yankess hater root for NY!!!

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