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Greinke! Greinke! Greinke! (And all things Zack)

Sep 25, 2009, 12:49 PM EDT

Kansas City started Anthony Lerew last night rather than the best pitcher in the league, but Zack Greinke still managed to make headlines by getting thrown out of the game from his seat in the dugout. Here’s how Dick Kaegel of MLB.com described the scene:

Greinke was ejected after [home plate umpire Greg] Gibson’s call of a ball that gave Red Sox batter Jacoby Ellsbury a 2-2 count against Royals starter Anthony Lerew. But it wasn’t just that pitch that riled Greinke. He’d been watching Gibson’s calls from the dugout and later from a television in the clubhouse. Finally, he came into the dugout and unloaded verbally.



“I just lost my composure, at least temporarily,” Greinke said. “I don’t usually do that. But it happens sometimes. I did right there, I don’t know why. It wasn’t warranted to be as vocal as I was about it. I was loud because I wanted him to hear me. I shouldn’t have done it. There were no cuss words. I don’t ever say cuss words, so I didn’t do that. I didn’t call him any names, either.”

Greinke’s next start comes Sunday afternoon against the Twins and the Royals are pulling out all the stops for his final home outing of the season, offering half-price tickets, discounted concessions, and “Greinke for Cy” t-shirts for the first 10,000 people through the turnstiles. Greinke is 9-3 with a 1.76 ERA at home this year and his 2.08 ERA overall would be the lowest mark by any AL pitcher since Pedro Martinez’s ridiculous 1.74 in 2000.
He also leads the AL in fewest hits per nine innings, WHIP, and shutouts, ranks second in strikeouts, K/BB ratio, and complete games, and is fifth in innings. To me that’s a slam-dunk Cy Young winner, but because Greinke has just 15 wins thanks to awful teammates some people see it another way. For instance, longtime announcer and former Cy Young winner Steve Stone wrote the following today:

While Greinke seems to be people’s choice for AL Cy Young, take a look at Felix Hernandez. Felix: 17-5. Greinke: 15-8.

Hernandez is an amazing young pitcher having a Cy Young-caliber season, but he just hasn’t been as good as Greinke, slightly better win-loss record or not. Of course, it’s tough to blame Stone for holding that opinion. Not only have people focused on pitcher win-loss records for decades and decades when it comes to determining who’s best, Stone benefited greatly from that focus when he won the award in 1980.
That year he ranked seventh in ERA and ninth in innings, but won a league-high 25 games for a 100-win Orioles team. Stone threw 251 innings with a 3.23 ERA and 149/101 K/BB ratio while Mike Norris of the A’s threw 284 innings with a 2.53 ERA and 180/83 K/BB ratio. Norris threw more innings while allowing fewer runs, had more strikeouts and fewer walks, was the league’s toughest pitcher to hit, and completed three times as many games, but because Stone had three more wins he got the award.
No wonder he views this year’s best pitchers the same way.

  1. Idiot Baseball Writers - Sep 25, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    Will you all stop listing wins when talking about cy young candidates… you’re going to judge a starting pitcher based upon the one category he has little to no control over? really? idiots!

  2. glp - Sep 25, 2009 at 2:04 PM

    Funny…Stone’s tune was a little different when I caught him on the Royals-White Sox broadcast last Saturday (Peavy’s debut) – a game Greinke didn’t pitch, by the way – but he sure like Greinke then. Then again, I guess he’s just saying “take a look at Felix,” so I’ll take a look.
    OK, I looked. Felix comes in second.

  3. Dom - Sep 26, 2009 at 12:59 PM

    Wow Aaron, if you keep calling things the way they are, you might get black balled. Thanks and keep up the good work.

  4. FlipYrWhig - Sep 26, 2009 at 2:02 PM

    I immediately thought of Steve Stone ’80 too. How does Bob Welch feel, in light of his similarly unjust ’90 CYA?

  5. JRD - Sep 26, 2009 at 4:19 PM

    If Stone, or anyone else, thinks that Wins should be the most important criteria for Cy Young, then he should look at Sabathia, who has 18 and a chance to finish with 19. If we wasn’t being lined up to start Game 1 of the playoffs with plenty of rest, he’d have a chance for 20.

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