Comments on: The Astros' offseason gets off to a pathetic start

By: vitamins

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By: Tyree Lecrone

Tyree Lecrone — Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:13:08 +0000

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By: Cru11

Cru11 — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:00:51 +0000

I have never seen Torre fire up his players. Never. Hes a rock in the dugout.

By: willmose

willmose — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:49:08 +0000

Perhaps, it was because Manny had enough of the cheating in Houston. The only way the Astro stay ahead of the Pirates is because the close the roof at home. The vistors hit into a 35 mph wind and Astros hit with it blowing out. Any doubts? The shot Pujols hit against Lidge in the 2005 playoffs only went 351 feet. If the roof had been open the ball would have travel 500+ feet.

By: dcfan

dcfan — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 13:36:46 +0000

No, because they didn’t get the best from their players even with good teams. The Mets have great players, but dont win. The Red Sox for years spent and still couldnt win until recently. The Yankees didnt stop spending in the 80s and early 90s and never won. And can you name managers for those teams at those times? And i meant Mike Schocia not Joe Torre for fiery managers. And Joe Torre tends to have fiery bench coaches and such, but ya, he isnt really fiery himself.

By: Church of the Perpetually Outraged

Church of the Perpetually Outraged — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:55:41 +0000

The best managers fire up their players and get the boot plenty, like Bobby Cox, Tony Larussa, or Joe Torre. Trust me, the Astros wont be losing sleep over not signing Acta…

Is that the reason they are the best, or is it because they are managing some of the best players in baseball? Merely asking as a devil’s advocate. Also, as a yanks fan, this might be the first time I’ve seen “firing up their players” and Joe Torre in the same sentence.

By: dcfan

dcfan — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:14:26 +0000

There is more to this than that guys. I think what happened was the Astros did not want to shell out a third year to a manager with no proven history. His lone manager experience was with a bad team in my own Nationals, but he made them worse. Same bad players and Riggleman had a winning record for nearly 2 months, and yet we never climbed out of dead last in the entire MLB, which says a lot of Actas record. He wasn’t fiery, wasnt in the faces of the lazy players, and never once got thrown out of a game. The best managers fire up their players and get the boot plenty, like Bobby Cox, Tony Larussa, or Joe Torre. Trust me, the Astros wont be losing sleep over not signing Acta…

By: Aarcraft

Aarcraft — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 11:08:19 +0000

I think the answer is obvious, Craig. It’s the lack of front office sense. The latter directly led to the former, because the front office would rather give millions to Carlos Lee, Kaz Matsui, Miguel Tejada, Mike Hampton, etc. than go over-slot for any of its draft choices. And Joey B, the real dream come true, for a guy who just got fired, might be some job security. For a team that has been plagued by instability in its managers for years, I think thats the least the Astros could have given him.

By: Joey B

Joey B — Mon, 26 Oct 2009 10:34:49 +0000

I’d be a little leery of a guy that tells you that this job is a dram come true, gets offered a better deal from someone else, and walks away from a dream come true. Kind of like when wanted to be closer to home, and took about $250k more per year to pitch for TO rather than the Rangers. As a RS fan, I have no dog in this race, but if we’re signing FAs, I really want guys that want to be here, and not guys that are forced to be here.