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The Mets are setting the stage to fire Omar Minaya

Oct 29, 2009, 9:25 AM EDT

It may not happen right now, but according to Jon Heyman’s sources, the Mets are putting people in place with the intention of ensuring a smooth transition in the event Minaya is fired early in the 2010 season. Indeed, the source refers to it as “setting the stage” for his firing. 

The moves: going out of their way to retain Sandy Johnson, their VP of scouting who had told everyone he was retiring and being on the lookout for another high level executive to “support” Minaya this offseason.  Sure, it’s always smart for a team to look for front office talent, but if Minaya was safe, wouldn’t he be the one hiring his alleged underlings?

The bigger question: can Mets fans wait until the spring of 2010 for Omar to be gone?

  1. Dan - Oct 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM

    Die-hard Mets fan here:
    Either (a) fire him now or (b) stop with the stupid game of “setting the stage” to fire him sometime in the foreseeable future. Why?
    Because the Mets are a fragile team right now, with a fractured but understanding fan base. An all-out attempt to “win now” could make us relive the mid-1990s and send the franchise into a five year funk. Because of that risk, most Mets fans (forgive my solipsism) are okay with a plan which looks toward 2011 but puts a competitive if not ideal team on the field in 2010.
    But really, this BS from ownership puts Omar in a position where he has to thing hyper-short term. He can’t save money (potentially) on a guy like Ben Sheets because who knows how Sheets will be in April/May. He can’t roll the dice with Evans/Carter/Murphy at first because if they fail early, he’s gone. And if it means giving Benji Molina or Rod Barajas two years to get one of them at CitiField, he’ll basically “have” to do that instead of going with a cheaper stopgap at backstop (heh) in Kelly Shoppach or Ryan Doumit.
    In other words:
    Poop or get off the pot.

  2. Rich - Oct 29, 2009 at 10:20 AM

    From another “Die-hard Mets fan”, Dan you said it all. BRAVO!

  3. smitty - Oct 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM

    hey you mets fans, relax and watch a REAL team repeat. You guys might be worse than the Knicks…

  4. Barry - Oct 29, 2009 at 10:38 AM

    As a Mets fan, Minaya needs to stop paying players for their past heroics.

  5. Rich - Oct 29, 2009 at 10:49 AM

    Yo Smitty, I’m actually chearing for the Phills to win it. As for your crack at insult and humor, as long as the Mets cant get their act together due to bad mnmgt decision, injuries, players who dont give 100% you will be right. But lets not forget that the Phils were a joke of a team not that long ago and the tide turns quickly in baseball.

  6. -z- - Oct 29, 2009 at 10:52 AM

    As long as the Wilpons are still there, it’s all a tempest in a teapot.

  7. Rich - Oct 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM

    Honestly -z-, the Wilpons do spend, but its up to the GM to use it wisely. Over paying for hasbeens and stopgap players is not the answer and neither is not drafting smartly. All this I blame on Omar, he deserves to go.
    His handling of the team this year shows that he’s not up to the task of making the Mets long term winners.

  8. Nicholas - Oct 29, 2009 at 11:07 AM

    This article is somewhat of a joke. The Mets have been setting the stage for months now. It started with the firing of Tony Bernazzard, and has just continued with the additional firings of other front office staff brought in by Omar Minaya. Indeed, if you follow the team at all, the Mets have been reconfiguring thier front office for a while now. To fire Omar outright after the season in which the ended up fielding a minor league team would not exactly send the right message to a talented executive to actually want to come to NY to be the GM. No, give Omar this off season to make the necessary changes, but if the team starts out poorly, then he is gone, and at least the Mets then have some credibilty. It isnt always about the sitting GM, you have to think of the next hire as well.
    By the way, who exactly started the rumor that was then accepted as fact that the Wilpons lost 300, then 700 million dollars? The gained 50 million in the end? Who was that, anyway?
    I guess Heyman is having a slow time, and needs to keep his name before the public. This is recycled news, all just fluff.

  9. Joey B - Oct 29, 2009 at 11:14 AM

    Good call Dan.
    The worst thing a team can do, imho, is keeping a GM on in a must-win situation. I’m not saying he would or he wouldn’t, but it’s not unreasonable to think a GM on a short leash will make bad trades to benefit 2010 as the expense of 2011-2016. How often will a team trade great prospect(s) for a weak short-term fix, knwing that the prospect will only benefit the next GM if the current GM gets fired this year. At a minimum, the CEO should review all trades and signings to make sure they make sense over the expected life of the deal rather than just 2010.

  10. John R. - Oct 29, 2009 at 12:09 PM

    From another “Die-hard Mets fan”,
    Ah who am I kidding, I’m glad to see this vastly underperforming organization continue to sink into the sea. September collapses can do that, ya know? The Mess (not a typo) will always be the orange-headed stepchild to the money-making Yankees.
    Go Phillies!

  11. kg2v - Oct 29, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    As a Mets fan for as long as I can remember (I was born the same year they started, and grew up in Flushing), I have to ask, Have the mets done anything right since Doubleday left the fold? Heck, have they done anything right since Doubleday and Wilpon bought the franchise from Doubleday Inc?

  12. phillysux - Oct 29, 2009 at 1:47 PM

    DON’T YOU HAVE ENOUGH BRAINS TO FIND A PHILLY BLOG …………..
    YOU ARE JUST LIKE JIMMY BUTTER ROLL, YOU CAN’T GET THE NEW YORK METS OUT OF YOUR THOUGHTS BECAUSE YOU LIVE IN A SECOND CLASS CITY.
    JIMMY WINS THE WORLD SERIES AND AT THEIR BOGUS CELEBRATION AT THEIR STADIUM COULD NOT HELP HIMSELF BUT TALK ABOUT THE METS, THIS IS SAD, HE KNOWS IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIGGER DEAL HAD HE WON IN NEW YORK.
    U TALK ALOT FOR A GUY WHOSE TEAM HAS A GRAND TOTAL OF 2 WORLD SERIES WINS, BUT HEY , YOU HAVE 10,000 LOSSES, LOSER!!

  13. phillysux - Oct 29, 2009 at 2:04 PM

    I can’t believe how many Mets fans don’t know the fact’s, just a few year’s back no free agent would even fly over shea stadium MUCH LESS SIGN.Then Mets HAD to OVER PAY, Pedro and practically BEG Delgado to accept a trade, Beltrans agent is believed to have went to the YANKEES before he signed and told them he wanted to play for the Yankees, I agree Omar has to have a winner this year especially with Phillie in the World Series again.The reality is there was too MANY INJURIES and Omar didn’t have the experience back ups in place or KIDS in the farm but I would like to point out that despite the injuries many of the pitchers were often facing a deficit of few runs before the Mets even picked up their sticks.I have to admit, I don’t see it getting much better because I think payroll that is COMING OFF THE BOOKS will not be spent on free agents because of the Wilpons losses in the Bernie Madoff MADNESS, Manuel is not the manager for the Mets despite his good sense of humor and ability to deal with the press, this team has not won for him, what makes you believe anything different this year.The METS NEED TO LQQK AT THE POSSIBILITY OF TRADING WRIGHT, REYES AND ANYONE ELSE WHO WILL BE ATTRATIVE, THESE GUY’S HAVE NOT WON ANYTHING SINCE 2006 AND BELTRAN LEFT THE BAT ON HIS SHOULDER IN GAME 7 AGAINST THE CARDINALS.the phillies won’t be going away anytime soon they have a GOOD CORE, LIKE THE YANKEES CORE FOUR!!!!!
    GO YANKEES, PLEASE BEAT THE PHILLIES, I CAN’T DEAL WITH
    JIMMY BUTTER ROLL HAVING A BIGGER HEAD.

  14. MJ - Oct 29, 2009 at 2:26 PM

    From where I’m sitting if Omar’s going to be fired, now (or right after the WS) is the time to do it. What is this “setting the stage” BS anyway? Let’s face it here, the Mets are not in the class of the Filthies or even the Skanks for that matter. The fact that they are not is Omar’s fault. Making all the wrong decisions when those teams made the right ones. The Mets are at a crossroads. Start to rebuild or spend a TON of money and try to compete now? Screw it up and the team will suck for years to come, while the Phillies become the emporors of baseball. DO you want Omar making that choice? If not, he needs to go NOW.

  15. wermart - Oct 29, 2009 at 2:27 PM

    Minaya mo es problema,el equipo estuvo lleno de lesiones, ami parecer no es estrategico,ni comercial despedir a Minaya.

  16. john - Oct 29, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    Sounds like a typical Wilpon plan that will leave them with a failed retread or incompetent once Minaya is inevitable fired. They are a mess.

  17. kirk - Oct 29, 2009 at 4:02 PM

    This topic is a total waste… Minaya should have been relieved back after his horrible / embarrassing press conference about the Tony B. firing. The Wilpons have no class, and do not respect the institution of the team like the Yankees Front Office does. Yankees know their product. The Mets are the bargain isle team in NYC. Minaya is a clown. The only think Minaya needed to say at the press conference was “Nothing.” Tony getting fired was not worth the time for a press conference nor the distraction. It should have never happened, and the Wilpons should have stopped it. I am a die-hard Mets Fan, I will not be buying season tickets next year, because it will all be the same story, I’ve seen the stadium, and it is not worth my hard earned cash. Wilpon had his chance to save the team by cleaning house upstairs and on the field. It is beyond clarity that Manuel is coming back next year as well. He is a lousty manager who does not institute on field fundamentals with his players. How many more errors are we going to see next year that result in multiple runs. What a waste, I can not believe I even added this time to the discussion.

  18. smitty - Oct 29, 2009 at 4:57 PM

    blah blah blah,
    True we have 10k losses but we are about to do something that hasn’t been done since the Big red machine and something the Mets will NEVER do. Repeat. As I said earlier Mets fans, relax and watch a real team do it.
    GO PHILLIES!

  19. John Pileggi - Oct 29, 2009 at 5:01 PM

    You pay a price to “win now”, and now was 2006 for this team. Pedro and Delgado were great additions for that moment in time. They are gone now, Beltran is older, Reyes is recovering, and Wright was derailed by the new dimensions of a new stadium. “Setting the stage” for a Minaya exit will do nothing to abbreviate the time it will take to revamp the system, nor will it cheapen the price to sign more “win now” talent. It is difficult to imagine deciding that Minaya is not the guy and then wait for some trigger to make it final. If that is the case, the Wilpons should swallow and do it now. If they see some sort of other option, it is not easily apparent as to what it is.

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