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The Yankees call the Jays about Roy Halladay

Nov 19, 2009, 10:57 AM EDT

There has long been an assumption that either the Yankees or the Red Sox will the ultimate landing pad for Roy Halladay, but it’s just been speculation.  It’s getting less speculative, however, as Jon Heyman is reporting that the Yankees have actually called the Jays about Doc

Heyman thinks that the starting point of any Yankees-Jays talks would be either Joba Chamberlain or Phil Hughes (last year the Jays wanted both, but probably weren’t serious about trading with the Yankees).  Catching prospect Jesus Montero is mentioned, but young stud catchers are harder to find than ace pitchers, and given how old the Yankees’ current catcher is, he’s probably off limits.

One direction Heyman doesn’t mention is the possibility of the Yankees going in with little in the way of young talent, but instead eating Vernon Wells’ deal or something creative like that.  That’s certainly something they would have done a couple of years ago, but the Hal Administration has been smarter about taking on big dumb deals lately. They take on big smart deals.

If the Yankees nab Halladay: turn out the lights, baseball, the party — at least for 2010 — is likely over. 

  1. Malcohm McGregor - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:20 AM

    What are the Yankees striving for? Do they want to wrap up the AL East by the fourth of July?

  2. Grant - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:36 AM

    Haha. If I wasn’t a fan of an AL East Rival I’d almost want to see that, just because it’d be funny. “Well, the Yankees have a 34 game lead over Boston here at the All Star Break…”

  3. Jim - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:37 AM

    That would be sweet for Yankee fans. Roy absolutely OWNS the Yankees (18-6 lifetime I think) I don’t even watch the games he pitches.

  4. ScubaSteveFL - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:39 AM

    By the forth of July??? Try Opening Day.

  5. Evan - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:44 AM

    Opening day? Try the moment he signs the contract!

  6. David M - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    If that happens then whats the point of professional baseball? It will just go furhter to point our the need for a salary cap. Thank you Curt Flood.

  7. Craig - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:46 AM

    This is why I don’t watch baseball anymore.

  8. Char-in-Miami - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    back in september, i said the yankees should go after halladay and GET RID OF CHAMERLAIN. in fact, i’d be glad if they gave back the prima donna burnette in the same deal. he is a jerk of the first order and to me – his pitching is just barely ok.
    don’t trade phil hughes. (and don’t let him cut his hair again either – like sampson – that’s when his slight slide occurred.) hughes is their future closer, because unfortunately, mo won’t be around for too many more years.
    lastly (for the moment at least), i would keep both matsui and damon. unfortunately, that is a sentimental versus practical approach and there is no place for sentimentality in business and that is what baseball is – business and the bottom line. and winning of course.
    go yankees.

  9. Blaine - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:47 AM

    If they get to keep joba, hughes, montero etc… then take on wells contract. they need some power in the OF. maybe throw in gardner or cabrera in exchange for eating less of the contract.

  10. Pat - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:56 AM

    The Dead Sox run is in baseball is OVER!!!!!!!!!!!

  11. Pat - Nov 19, 2009 at 11:57 AM

    The Dead Sox run is in baseball is OVER!!!!!!!!!!!

  12. DiamondDuq - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:17 PM

    What’s with all the crying? So either the Yanks get him this year or they get him next year in free agency. At least if they trade for him this year they’d be giving something up, next year he’ll be a free agent and they’ll just outbid everyone. As far as the salary cap is concerned, the only way that would work would be to eliminate the luxury tax, which would bankrupt a few teams, and add a salary floor for teams like the Pirates who because of the luxury tax, revenue sharing etc. are making a profit before opening day even comes around. There is proportionally far more parody in MLB than any professional sports league with a salary cap, just look at the percentage of different teams who make the playoffs compared to the total number of teams in the playoffs, since nearly every team in the NHL makes the playoffs, and the number of different teams to be in and win the World Series. There’s a salary cap in the NBA but the same 6 teams keep showing up in the Finals. There’s a salary cap in the NHL but the same teams keep showing up in the Finals. There’s no salary cap in MLB and you get different teams nearly every single year. What’s broken?

  13. NYr n SoCal - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    July would be good, but why not get er locked up by spring training?

  14. Joe G - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:28 PM

    Salary Cap Salary Cap lame and tired excuse. Do people understand the revenue sharing that takes place in baseball. You can buy competitiveness but not wins. There are too many factors that happen in a game that determine a win and it ain’t payroll. Any true fan would know that.

  15. Forgotten Baseball Fan - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:31 PM

    Competetive balance in baseball is already gone. Baseball is going the way of professional wrestling. The Yankees are “Hulk Hogan.” Do you think that they will win the 2010 World Series? Of course! The owners make more money when Hulk Hogan wins Hulkamania.

  16. CQ - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:34 PM

    Any true Yankee fan, perhaps. Payroll has a LOT to do with wins.

  17. Pete S - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:35 PM

    I agree, ‘F the Yankees!

  18. Evan - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:37 PM

    I agree.
    A lot of people don’t understand the underlying economics of sports with a salary cap.
    Sure, the Celtics and Lakers can’t outbid other teams, but their much larger markets and fanbases entice players to play for them for equal or less money than other teams would offer. Why is that? Because they have the potential to sell more jerseys, headline more events and make more money on endorsements than if they play for the Milwaukee Bucks. There are simply more perks and money available to a player in a big market than in a small market.
    This same phenomenom occurs in the NFL. Salary cap systems are inefficient and socialist.
    Baseball needs to slim up and either combine small market teams or simply eliminate some from the mix.

  19. Church of the Perpetually Outraged - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:38 PM

    haha, thank god you aren’t leading the Yanks. Chamberlain is 24 and cost controlled for at least 3 more years, he made all his starts this year and bumped his IP by 50. Give the kid a chance. Burnett(e), while a longer contract than I’d like, also made all his starts and pretty much pitched the game of his life in G2 of the WS. Ask most scouts and they’ll tell you he has the best “stuff” in the game.
    As for hughes as the closer, why would you waste another 24 year old as a reliever? He’s far more valuable as a starter, which he should be again next year, than as a setup man.

  20. MydogJake - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:39 PM

    …ZZZ… just more of the same … Yanks buy another championship… more fans leave the sport … fans tired of getting fleeced… how much for a 300 level ticket next year; $80? … and that’s against the KC Royals!! …whose payroll is only $200 million less

  21. Frank W. Zammetti - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:46 PM

    Hehe, you said “parody” when you meant “parity”… interestingly, you’re 100% right in either case :)

  22. Joe D - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM

    Salary Cap will not work because there will be a minimum that certain teams will not want.
    Yankee haters will be very busy as this Yankee team is built to win for a few years.
    Yanks dont need Doc and need to sign Wang
    Let the red sox sign Doc they are not going anywhere

  23. Ditto - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:57 PM

    It would be irresponsible for the Yankees – or any team looking to improve in the pitching department – not to inquire about Doc.
    Irresponsible not to…

  24. Forgotten Baseball Fan - Nov 19, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    This analysis is not correct. Players go to big market teams because it is good for the owners, not the players. Millionaires do not become billionaires by accident, it is orchestrated.
    What most fans do not pay attention to is the fact that baseball has an “anti-trust exemption.” This means that the owners do not have to compete like other businesses do, so they don’t. If the Pirates and the Royals are in the World Series those franchises do a little better, but all the other owners make less money then they could have. If the Yankees are in the World Series, all owners win.
    If the anti-trust exemption was lifted the first low market franchise to move to New York would immediately double in value and Major League Baseball would be powerless to stop the move. With the anti-trust exemption they would never allow it.

  25. Dean - Nov 19, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    If the Yanks land the Doc–#28 is in the books! GO YANKS!

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