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The Yankees call the Jays about Roy Halladay

Nov 19, 2009, 10:57 AM EDT

There has long been an assumption that either the Yankees or the Red Sox will the ultimate landing pad for Roy Halladay, but it’s just been speculation.  It’s getting less speculative, however, as Jon Heyman is reporting that the Yankees have actually called the Jays about Doc

Heyman thinks that the starting point of any Yankees-Jays talks would be either Joba Chamberlain or Phil Hughes (last year the Jays wanted both, but probably weren’t serious about trading with the Yankees).  Catching prospect Jesus Montero is mentioned, but young stud catchers are harder to find than ace pitchers, and given how old the Yankees’ current catcher is, he’s probably off limits.

One direction Heyman doesn’t mention is the possibility of the Yankees going in with little in the way of young talent, but instead eating Vernon Wells’ deal or something creative like that.  That’s certainly something they would have done a couple of years ago, but the Hal Administration has been smarter about taking on big dumb deals lately. They take on big smart deals.

If the Yankees nab Halladay: turn out the lights, baseball, the party — at least for 2010 — is likely over. 

  1. Mark G - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:13 PM

    Last time I checked, anybody can open a checkbook, and buy a player. Sorry to the rest of MLB (NOT)……Yankees are stacked and gonna be deep for a while. SPEND ON CASH-MAN!

  2. mrmitch - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:31 PM

    The Yankees suck-the fun out of baseball.

  3. bostonRob - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:32 PM

    nother classic case of the ahole stankies just buying championships.

  4. Evan - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:33 PM

    [Quote=Forgottenbaseballfan] This analysis is not correct. Players go to big market teams because it is good for the owners, not the players. [/QUOTE]
    Forgotten, I was referring to players in sports leagues with a salary cap. You don’t seem to be referencing my analysis so please explain why it is incorrect.
    Your second sentence doesn’t make any sense. Players are always out for themselves and don’t care about the owners except in rare cases like with the Oakland Raiders. Players typically pick the team that offers the most money (both directly and indirectly). Other factors play a part, but almost always take a back seat to the payday.

  5. Rosemari Famiglietti - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    I agree with everything you said…Joba and AJ are both headcases… and they both have attitudes for some reason…which they shouldn’t because they’re not that good…AJ gets paid 16 million for throwing pies and having meltdowns…Joba is a big baby and neither one of them are true Yankees! Keep Matusi…who is a true Yankee and warrior…Damon too…who is a positive role model and a game changer like when he did that double steal.
    Pick up another starter because don’t think Wang will ever be the same…This team can win again next year with just a couple of changes and additions…love this team…Repeat in 2010!

  6. Mark G - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:38 PM

    I didn’t realize how many cry-babies there are about the Yankees. Don’t all teams try to win? Don’t all teams try to field the best possible team in order to give their team the best chance of winning championships? All these whiners must be Dead Sux fans or dejected Philly fans. Dead Sox are whiners-Yankees are winners. 27-7…….shhhhhhhh.

  7. Bob - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM

    The Yankees have been winning championships ever since they “BOUGHT” Babe Ruth!

  8. Mark G - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:40 PM

    And, call the Yankees anything you want………but you also have to call them WORLD CHAMPIONS for the 27th time.

  9. John M - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:41 PM

    Curt Flood lost his case. You need to thank Andy Messersmith for free agency.

  10. MissYankee - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:45 PM

    If I were the Yankees… just to annoy everyone that hates them…I would get Lackey and Halliday, Holliday, Granderson or Bay…Next year go after Cliff Lee and Carl Crawford…then watch the whiners..Cry!!! Love it….
    All you Yankee haters…you’re so jealous you can’t stand it…Get over it…we’re going to be around for a very long time.
    Go Yankees…2009 World Champions…best team in baseball…Repeat in 2010 for #28!!!!

  11. MissYankee - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:47 PM

    If I were the Yankees… just to annoy everyone that hates them…I would get Lackey and Halliday, Holliday, Granderson or Bay…Next year go after Cliff Lee and Carl Crawford…then watch the whiners..Cry!!! Love it….
    All you Yankee haters…you’re so jealous you can’t stand it…Get over it…we’re going to be around for a very long time.
    Go Yankees…2009 World Champions…best team in baseball…Repeat in 2010 for #28!!!!

  12. Fast Eddy - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:49 PM

    Hey, slow down everyone. See what they have to give up if they do get Halladay. He is a great pitcher, but still we don’t know how he will pitch in the future (injuries etc.). Besides that, if they give up more than they should just to get him, it may hurt them more. Also, how long can Pettitt [pitch? He was lucky to do so well this year. What if he folds next year like he did in Houston? How long will Rivera pitch as he is today? A lot of questions to answer before we crown the Yanks again.I think the best competion will come from the angels or even Tampa Bay. I think the Bosox are dead. It doesn’t look like they will be able to sign Bay at a level to afford Halladay too.It is either Bay or Halladay, and I am not sure they are in the running for Halladay. The best advice I can give to them is to try to convince the Jays to trade him to the NL.

  13. CMAN - Nov 19, 2009 at 2:54 PM

    In 2008 MLB baseball transferred 400M in revenue sharing and luxury tax. This is in addition to the $35M each MLB gets from MLB for licensing/merchandising/etc. So a team like the pirates made $25M before the season even started. What happened to the $25M? Why not invest in your team like the Yankees do? You can’t fault Yankess ownership/management by spending every dime they can to win and please their fan base.

  14. jonny5 - Nov 19, 2009 at 3:02 PM

    Can’t blame them for that. You can blame them for a salary cap, which is bound to happen at the rate the Yankees are going. Then they’ll have to do real work to put together teams to win championships, instead of just tossing money around as they do now. LAME!

  15. Sleepless in Seattle - Nov 19, 2009 at 3:18 PM

    Yankees suck.

  16. Will T - Nov 19, 2009 at 3:23 PM

    The Microsoft Yankees strike again! It’s going to be different this time….TRUST ME

  17. Forgotten Baseball Fan - Nov 19, 2009 at 3:27 PM

    The rules are set up by ownership, whose main goal is to make money. In baseball, the most money is made when big market teams win. Yankee fans would abandon the team in droves if they were not perpetual winners. Bigger payroll means better players meaning better chance of winning meaning more money for owners. Of course the players are going to go to the team that pays them more, so owners can indirectly control who has better players and therefore who wins and therefore how much money they make. And they all make plenty of money when a big market team wins. The owners of the Royals and Mariners and A’s are HAPPY when the Yanks sign all the big free agants. They make more money as well. They are not really trying to win. They are trying to make more money.

  18. Forgotten Baseball Fan - Nov 19, 2009 at 3:30 PM

    Are you aware that the Yankees bought Babe Ruth? I think that they bought every single championship.

  19. alyce Iavarone - Nov 19, 2009 at 3:54 PM

    Everyone’s got his answer, his opinion, etc. You all sound like a lot of mislead democrats. You know you have 4 democrats in one room with 12 opinions. Athletes have to earn a living just like anyone else. The difference is, they are willing to give up their time, their body, and know well in advance they are doing this for a limited time. Let’s see if I can get a rise here: if your boss offered you an outrageous salary would you turn it down? In fact, would you want to be scrutinized by everyone for accepting it? There is a reason you have an agent; there is a reason for free agency, and it’s called protecting your interest, insurance if you will. As to the individual who refers to the great Curt Flood, how dare you soil his name? That man suffered by himself, and then he died. You obviously just know how to throw names around before knowing the facts. I have a great passion for this individual and respect, and people who are enjoying the game of baseball and are basking in its fruits, have Curt Flood to thank. Just food for thought.

  20. Chris - Nov 19, 2009 at 4:13 PM

    The problem is this with the salary cap is this. You say that “There is proportionally far more parody in MLB than any professional sports league with a salary cap” which is farsical at best considering that the divisional championships have repeated almost %73 of the time in the past 10 years whereas in the NHL and NFL those numbers are closer to %47. And the reason why most of the teams in the NHL and NFL mentioned continue to win is because the rules of a salary cap enviornment create a cause and effect factor whereas the organizations are forced to put more emphasis aquiring talent through thier drafting and scouting programs. Look at the Detroit Red Wings for example, yes they have won the Western Central division I believe 7 out of the last 10 years, but the fact remains the reason being is that aside from a few free agents here and there, the fundementals of thier team which have allowed them to be so successful is because of thier organization approch to developping talent from within thier farm system. So ask yourself, when was the last time the Yankees groomed a top prospect for 3-4 years in the minors? THEY DONT, why? Becuase with no salary cap, and the fact that baseball is much less of a team driven sport and much more of an individual sport in comparrison to the other 3 major sports, this gives them ZERO incentive to continue riding the high tides of thier cheque books and sign top free agents. Also, another danger which the Yankees (and other teams too) have exposed us to is going out and getting talent for the sake of not letting other competing teams aquire them. Remember in like 02, 03 or 04 (whenever it was)when they last signed Conseco? The reason why they did that shortly before the deadline was to prevent the A’s from aquiring him, not because they wanted to make him a part of thier organization, but because they wanted to lessen the chance of another teams competitiveness. The fact is a salary cap enviornment has its pro’s and con’s. And I agree with you that yes it does impact the teams on the truly low part of the totem pole like the Pirates, but if in a salary cap world if you as an organization cannot make money then in reality, you probably shouldnt have a team. The fact of the matter is in the NHL prior to the salary cap you had 3 teams in Canada where they drew sell outs every night, almost in bankruptcy and barely making it by, but now with the cap world those teams are each running well and profitable. Plus, a salary cap energizes people in places like Milluiwake, San Diego, Minnesota, Kansas City and many others because they can walk in to each season knowing that with the proper scouting, organizational efforts and principled signings they have just as much of a chance contending for thier divisional titles in July which would allow them to go out and make that big trade or signing which might push them over that hill. The salary cap world, with both its pro’s and con’s works as it was intended. the current system allows for reckless management descisions as well it also undermines the efforts made by the smaller organizations to get better as a team from within.
    Personally I feel like if they dont want to do away with the salary cap system then make the divisions more balanced, the same idea like UEFA soccer. Put the Yanks, Angels, Red Sox, Dodgers, Mets etc…all the teams with the highest payrolls in thier own divisions to fair out the process.

  21. Chris - Nov 19, 2009 at 4:14 PM

    This is no place for politics you pillhead. Go drink some more Limbaugh Kool Aid.

  22. jo mama - Nov 19, 2009 at 4:15 PM


  23. Chris - Nov 19, 2009 at 4:27 PM

    Your statement is almost laughable because there is no one player, not A-Rod, not Matsuei, not Jeter, not nobody who is worth Halladay straight up. Injuries? Look it up, as far as injuries go Halladay has only had two instances where he suffered season ending injuries, one of them being from a comebacker pitch in Texas that almost tore his shoulder out. Halladay is Mr. Consistent. Name me any other pitcher over the past 10-15 years that consistently goes out there and pitches 8-12 complete games a year? Nobody! Addiing Halladay would only VASTLY improve this team, no if’s and’s or but’s. Halladay is so geared to win a championship a Mack Truck couldntn injur him right now. He is far and away the most consistent and dominating pitcher of the last 5 years easy. there have been pitchers (Lee, Santana) who have had better seasons over those years but over the last 5 years, its not even close. The only reason why you probably dont recognize how good Halladay really can be is because you are probably an American in an American market where very few out of town ballgames are shown especially Blue Jays games. I have watched Halladay pitch 38 times in the past 10 years living in Toronto and do you know how many games he gave up more than 5 runs in those games? 0 And trust me on this one, Paul Godfried will NEVER allow a divisional trade for Halladay, EVER.

  24. bill - Nov 19, 2009 at 4:30 PM

    Joba is the reincarnation of Hideki Irabu. He is never going to live up to his hype. Get something for him now before everyone sle figures it out.

  25. Baseball is done - Nov 19, 2009 at 5:07 PM

    The Yankees will end up with Bay Holliday Halliday Lackey. They will then be declared AL Champions and will not have to play until the World Series.
    Boras is on their payroll and is also an advanced scout.
    The owner is on his way out and will spend whatever it takes.
    They will build a new stadium next year to move in the right field
    fences closer for more home runs.
    Baseball is now done! And who cares with the salaries.

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