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The Yankees call the Jays about Roy Halladay

Nov 19, 2009, 10:57 AM EDT

There has long been an assumption that either the Yankees or the Red Sox will the ultimate landing pad for Roy Halladay, but it’s just been speculation.  It’s getting less speculative, however, as Jon Heyman is reporting that the Yankees have actually called the Jays about Doc

Heyman thinks that the starting point of any Yankees-Jays talks would be either Joba Chamberlain or Phil Hughes (last year the Jays wanted both, but probably weren’t serious about trading with the Yankees).  Catching prospect Jesus Montero is mentioned, but young stud catchers are harder to find than ace pitchers, and given how old the Yankees’ current catcher is, he’s probably off limits.

One direction Heyman doesn’t mention is the possibility of the Yankees going in with little in the way of young talent, but instead eating Vernon Wells’ deal or something creative like that.  That’s certainly something they would have done a couple of years ago, but the Hal Administration has been smarter about taking on big dumb deals lately. They take on big smart deals.

If the Yankees nab Halladay: turn out the lights, baseball, the party — at least for 2010 — is likely over. 

  1. Spice - Nov 19, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    Not for nothing , and I agree with your post by the way, but the Yankees were purchased by The Boss for $10 million. Theya re estimated to be worth $1.3 BILLION today (Forbes Magazine). That is 130 times more, not 4 times more

  2. alyce Iavarone - Nov 19, 2009 at 5:24 PM

    What’s the problem? Did I hit a real nerve? You are a fool if you think politics are not involved.

  3. len - Nov 19, 2009 at 5:55 PM

    this is still a free country for now…if you have the money and want to spend the way you’d like , you should have that right. if you work harder , come up with a better game plan and make more money why should you use the resourses that are available to get ahead…? other teams have seen the business model that the yankees have built. they can do the same things. even if they don’t have as many fans , win a few times and you’ll see how the fan base increases. after all , these teams are not owned by welfare recipients. these owners are multi millionare, billionare types. they just have to decide that they want to win and that they are willing to spend to do it.

  4. Munk3y - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:01 PM

    Phil Hughes and Montero.. If the BJs (lolz) take it we will have the east by July 4th.
    2010 Rotation: CC,AJ,Halladay,Lackey,Andy… Is that 28th I smell?

  5. Yankee Empire - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM

    Perhaps the Yankee Empire should just declare war on Boston Nation & just be done with them once & for all…

  6. len - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:03 PM

    btw, the toronto ownership group is the richest in baseball.

  7. Grammar police - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:18 PM

    Unintentionally funny mis-spelling, parody, instead of parity. Good bit. Yes, there is a lot of parody in the American League, like the idea that all the teams are really major league teams, instead of AAAA farm teams for the Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, and Tigers.

  8. Charles - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:28 PM

    Sign Halladay, let Matsui and Damon go and sign Jason Bay.

  9. HMan - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:38 PM

    The crying should be coming from “the other 3 teams” in the AL East who have only a marginal chance, at best, of ever making the playoffs. Every single move has to pan out for these teams to have a even a remote shot. It’s not a level playing field. Since ’94 the Yanks or the Sox have won the division every year except ’97 (O’s) and ’08 (Rays), with the Yanks qualifying as the wildcard in ’97 and the Sox in ’08. You’re right, they don’t always win the big prize, but one or the other and most times both of them play for it EVERY October.

  10. Dumb Yankees fan - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

    Yoo two smart four hour feeble brains…

  11. robert Jaman - Nov 19, 2009 at 6:46 PM

    Between 1921 and 1964 the Yankees won the series 20 out of 44 years before free agency and finished 2nd or 3rd. 95 % of the time. Which shows the best team rises to the top with or without money ..class is afraid ,very afraid of the pinstripes

  12. Joe G - Nov 19, 2009 at 8:19 PM

    4 years?

  13. Yankees27 - Nov 20, 2009 at 6:55 AM

    hahahahahahahahaha…good one

  14. Mark G - Nov 20, 2009 at 8:45 AM

    Still crying about the Yankees? Get over it.

  15. XTrust_No1X - Nov 20, 2009 at 9:52 AM

    Actually, I’m hoping the 27 Time, World Series Champions, the Legendary New York Yankees wrap up their repeat and the next year in their brand new Yankees Dynasty before Christmas 09′. And, getting Roy “Doc” Holliday will make that a reality. The only thing that I’m not in agreement with the Yankee brass is, who they will trade to make this happen. I don’t think the Yankees should have to trade Joba or Hughes to get this done. I was thinking more in the line of Swisher, Kennedy, Iqawa and maybe eating Veron Wells’s big contract, which is only money to the YES Network Bank. This should be plenty to bring the Yankees their next chip. This, along with the resigning of Yankees Legend and future Hall of Famer Andy Pettitte, the resigning of Johnny Damon, and also the signing of John Lackey will be enough of Christmas gifts for the Greatest Fans in the World, the New York Yankees Universe! Hey Cash! let’s get these moves completed so we all can enjoy Christmas 2009′.

  16. jaymen - Nov 20, 2009 at 10:16 AM

    what you dimwitted Yankees bashers fail to grasp is this: there are 12 other owners with more personal wealth than the Steinbrenners… so all you people are doing is bashing a family that invests in their product. THEY understand business… you invest in your team, your team wins, it generates more ad money, you re-invest, repeat cycle. THAT’S how you build the richest franchise in sports. Maybe some of you fans should be bashing the ownership of your own teams, chances are they CHOOSE not to spend the money … they rather pocket the luxary taxes, as revenues, consession monies they collect and field sub standard teams. When Stienbrenner bought the Yanks, he paid 10 million for them, they were at the bottom.. over the next 35 yrs he BUILT that franchise up.. and lost a lot of money in those earyl years, be figured out what most owners failed to understand. Winning teams generate more revenue, which in turn help generate more winning teams.

  17. Fifty-year-Yanks-fan - Nov 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    What is this nonsense about Yankee fans leaving in droves if the Yankees don’t win. Since you have obviously been sleeping from 2000 until now, I’ll give you an update. The Yanks did NOT win a championship in that time while a number of smaller market, smaller payroll teams DID. At least try to make your argument in some way remotely supported by facts. The Yanks attendance figures have been great despite not winning it all, and as long as their ownership keeps spending the revenue on the team, fans will still be there win or lose.

  18. MarkG - Nov 20, 2009 at 1:30 PM

    I heard the Yankees are going to buy the entire starting rotation from the Pirates as their bullpen, and get Chase Utley, AND Joe Mauer for back-up DH’s.

  19. Alyce Iavarone - Nov 20, 2009 at 5:35 PM


  20. Alyce Iavarone - Nov 20, 2009 at 5:44 PM

    Thanks for straightening out everyone. I am tired of the Yankees taking it on the chin. Do you remember 1996 after Baltimore lost to the Yankees in the playoffs, the following year they spent an outrageous amount of money for their team, which was one dimensional and in fact, has never reached the top again? Thanks again. People have to realize it is chemistry first and foremost.

  21. John D - Nov 21, 2009 at 7:41 AM

    David is absolutely correct…BASEBALL needs a salary cap. They have to create a level playing field for each team. If the majority of the teams cannot afford Halladay (or any other ‘franchise’ type player), there is no equity. Who can say that teams like Pittsburgh and Kansas City have the same chance as Boston, NYY, LAA and the Phillies. Yes, every team has a POSSIBILITY of winning, but it is NOT an EQUAL chance.
    GREED is everywhere in baseball…why did we have a day off in between games in the LAA-NYY when there was no travel – for the money that MLB gets from TV prime time. I laugh when I hear about ‘parity’ in baseball. True, there has not been a team that won more than twice in the past ten years, but in the past ten years, how many teams with a below average payroll made the playoffs….and how many teams in the top quartile in payroll did not make the playoffs…look at these numbers and then let’s talk about equity. Money doesn’t guarantee a title, but it sure does give you a MUCH BETTER chance, and that is not fair, and not good for BASEBALL. (By the way, I would not oppose a Minimum Salary Cap and an individual team profitability cap).

  22. John D - Nov 21, 2009 at 7:56 AM

    You may get different teams winning the WS from year to year, but what percentage of teams in the lowest quartile of salary payroll get to the PLYOFFS? What percentage of teams in the highest quartile of salary payroll get to the playoffs? Compare those percentages and then let’s talk about ‘MLB parity for the whole league’. I give the NYY credit for spending the $ to give themselves the best chance to win, but is that fair when most of the other teams do not have the $ to spend even if they wanted to. The $ does not guarantee a championship, but it does create a VERY UNEQUAL ‘playing field’.

  23. XTrust_No1X - Nov 21, 2009 at 2:11 PM

    The Yankees will take on the hugh contract of Vernon Wells, then the Jays will send Roy Halladay to the Yankees, with the Yankees only giving up a couple of essentially secondary minor leaguers and cash for the second best pitcher in the MLB(behind CC Sabathia)in Roy Halladay and the Yankees 28th 29th and possibly 30th World Series Championships. Thanks Jays! Now, all the Yankees have to do the rest of this 2009 off-season is to sign John Lackey, Chone Figgins, resign Johnny Damon and future Hall of Famer Andy “Mr Clutch” Pettite. Then,after the 2010 Season, Andy Pettite will retire, thus opening a spot on the World Champions rotation for their next big Free Agent signing of Cliff Lee, thus completing the Yankees rotation of:
    CC Sabathia
    Roy Halladay
    AJ Burnett
    John Lackey
    Cliff Lee
    then the Greatest closer in MLB History
    Mariano Rivera
    Yankees lineup
    Chone Figgins
    Johnny Damon
    Derek Jeter
    Introducing the Next New York Yankees Dynasty!!! GO Yankeess!!!

  24. jimmy hoffa - Nov 30, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    I would like to say, just like the teamsters was, MLB, and their enforcers, a.k.a. the yankees, are just businessmen, like me and the Teamsters used to be. All us businessmen are here to make money and the best at making money are the best…so what’s your problem…yankee fans like good business, like at lehman, AIG, etc. etc…what is this, a school playground, golden rule stuff?…make me the commissioner and I say, close all the teams except the yankees cuz that = more $$$$, no crying…what’s the diff if the yankees beat those loser mlb teams or high school teams, it’s still a win, right?…after all, a high school coach can get the best players if he’s smart…
    p.s. teamsters + yankees rule!!!

  25. HalladayFan - Dec 6, 2009 at 11:53 AM

    Not sure that acquiring Halladay would guarantee the Yankees make the playoffs, but it would help a great deal. Also, it would be great insurance if CC Sabathia were to develop arm problems. Considering the workload the Brewers put on him during their playoff run and then the Yanks last season, there is potential for problems soon.
    Halladay pitches a lot of complete games but he uses only 90-100 pitches to finish the nine innings. He was never asked to pitch on short rest with Toronto.
    Also, Jesus Montero is a great hitting prospect, but his defense has not improved to the point that he will be able to play in the majors at Catcher. He is a 1B, DH at this point. Unless the Yanks are looking to release Teixeira and play Montero at 1B they might as well use him to acquire a top player.

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