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Phillies to include Cole Hamels in a Halladay deal?

Dec 10, 2009, 8:25 AM EDT

Mark Feinsand of the Daily News is reporting that it’s a possibility. Rosenthal is saying we’re more likely to see J.A. Happ in a package for Halladay, along with either Michael Taylor or Domonic Brown.

Either way, it’s now sounding like the Roy Halladay sweepstakes is shaping up to be a battle between Anaheim and Philly.

  1. smokehouse - Dec 10, 2009 at 8:42 AM

    Halladay has worked way too many innings. Over 900 in the last three years. He will surely break down at some point. They must avoid him. Certainly not trade Hammels and young prospects. That would be crazy.

  2. alum - Dec 10, 2009 at 9:03 AM

    So just Happ and one of the outfielders, and not the sainted Kyle Drabek? Suddenly Shapiro’s return for Lee looks a lot better.

  3. Old Gator - Dec 10, 2009 at 9:16 AM

    I guess the Feelies think that if the Marlins finally solved Hamels last season, everyone else will this year. I just think the guy has eaten one too many of those horsemeat and velveeta sandwiches they’re so proud of up there. Now the Feesh will have to solve Halladay. That is, if those skinflint sphincters who run the Feesh don’t sell off the video players in the clubhouse so the Teal Titans can’t even study his motion.

  4. Church of the Perpetually Outraged - Dec 10, 2009 at 9:48 AM

    Over 900 in the last three years

    Umm he’s at 710 for 3 years, or 930 for 4 years. He’s never had arm problems in his career, and as Keith Law mentions, if you had to pencil in any starter for 800IP in the next four years, Halladay would be your best bet.
    However, isn’t Lee’s dealing ending next year as well? So they’d have both Lee and Halladay to resign? Damn…

  5. Steve V - Dec 10, 2009 at 9:52 AM

    Lee AND Halladay??? Who do the phillies think they are, the yankees???

  6. philsphan22 - Dec 10, 2009 at 12:18 PM

    Hey Old Gator, aren’t you clever enough to come up with a new dig at Philadelphia? I must have read that idiotic “horsemeat and velveeta” line 20 times by now. And by the way, a cheesesteak is made with whiz not velveeta. Get your facts right. Moron.

  7. Old Gator Hater - Dec 10, 2009 at 12:42 PM

    “Feelies”, not sure what kind of cheap shot thats SUPPOSED to be but you really need some lessons in sarcasm and cheap shots, “horsemeat and velveeta”, please stay off the message board until you can come up with better dialect to try and insult us with.

  8. bjavie - Dec 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM

    smokehouse, where do you get your facts? Halladay has thrown exactly 710 1/3 innings in the last three years.

  9. Phillies2010 - Dec 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM

    I’m seriously craving a huge philly cheesesteak from Pat’s right about now!! Too bad I’m stuck down here in FL with a bunch of crusty old gators. Go Phillies!!!!!

  10. phillyphan - Dec 10, 2009 at 1:16 PM

    I am ok with trading Hamels, but the Phils should keep Happ! Hamels is a head case.

  11. jonny5 - Dec 10, 2009 at 1:23 PM

    Not Hamels or Happ goofy. It’ll be Blanton, Drabek, Brown, and Taylor. The Jays need a decent starter when they get rid of Halladay. I don’t see Hamels getting traded or Happ. Amaro is smart man as seen in the Lee deal.
    And I agree, Old Gator, that line is getting very old. A smart guy like you should be able to think of something a little fresher than that. Plus It’s beef, get it right!!!!! Whiz is optional!!!!!

  12. dirtysanchez - Dec 10, 2009 at 1:50 PM

    I hope the phillies take halladay and he sucks. i hate them. Halladay to the Yankees!!

  13. Mike Z - Dec 10, 2009 at 1:54 PM

    The Phils have 3 lefties in their starting rotation, so 1 of them has to go. I would rather it be Hamels then Happ. Happ has a ton of potential. Hamels gets shook easily when things don’t go his way.
    Old Gator – You hate Philly, we get it. You never had a Philly cheesesteak, everyone from Philly knows that. But guess what? No one gives a damn about you and your tired old tirades. Why dont you go to a fish game when the Phils come to town and yell profanities at them from the stands. It wont be hard to get tickets.

  14. phillyphan - Dec 10, 2009 at 1:59 PM

    If Hamels is as lame pitcher again this year with his head case of problems and blame, then I will be pissed we did not get rid of him. Hopefully he is working on his game in the off season and not his charities like he did last year.
    Jays will not take Blanton and Drabek is not going to be part of any deal, at least not for one pitcher. BTW, Halladay’s 2nd half of last season does not show all that much. The Lee trade was much more in our favor.
    If Amaro is smart, then Drabek will not be a part of any trade. Looking back at last year, both Happ and Blanton performed better than Hamels did. Hamels has one good year and we cherish him and put him up on a pedestal. I personally think the Marty Bystrom jinx has bitten Hamels. But if we think he will bounce back like he did 2 years ago, then we should also assume that we will get a Brad Lidge like we had two years ago.

  15. T. Formica - Dec 10, 2009 at 2:26 PM

    The NNY have a better offer than Hammels or whatever from the Frillies: Hughes, Montero. Why would Roy want to pitch in a TripleA leagues when he could pitch for the World Champions and wear #27? Remember he can nix a deal

  16. phillyphan - Dec 10, 2009 at 2:41 PM

    Why would Toronto want to trade him to another AL team, especially in their own division? DUH!!! Last team they would trade to is another AL East team. Who are the NNY btw?

  17. ScoutAZ - Dec 10, 2009 at 2:53 PM

    900 innings in past 3 years…hmm… 33 starts a year…just over 9 innings a start

  18. Alex - Dec 10, 2009 at 2:56 PM

    Roy WANTS to be traded to the Phillies Formica….just read an article and you would know that. Why would the Blue Jays want players that have league experience and are gonna demand money in the next year or two. They are trying to get young and cheap. Phils have the best shot because they have what the Jays want. The Angels are offering guys who are gonna get PAID soon.

  19. Houzudo - Dec 10, 2009 at 3:42 PM

    Beat it Hamels!!

  20. Houzudo - Dec 10, 2009 at 6:01 PM

    Beat it Hamels!!

  21. Old Gator - Dec 10, 2009 at 6:14 PM

    You make it sound like it takes effort to insult Feelies fans. Naaw, I just kid around in my hometown fractured Cuban dialect and, language being polysemous and subject to visceral interpretations by the mindless, they get insulted on their own.
    That probably offers some kind of clue to why so many of them behave like foulmouthed trailer trash and yelling insults about opposing (and even their own) players’ mothers in coded sequences of beer belches by the third inning, whether they arrive at the stadium in a Mercedes or in an old Ford flatbed. But then, democracy was born in Philadelphia when it was still a town that mattered to anyone but the deformed shellfish downriver, so there’s a natural levelling effect.

  22. fish on - Dec 10, 2009 at 10:06 PM

    go Yanks !!! were going to win it all again next year with or without Halladay.

  23. philsphan22 - Dec 11, 2009 at 12:18 AM

    just who do you think you’re impressing with your thesaurus-aided diatribes anyway?

  24. Old Gator - Dec 11, 2009 at 10:16 AM

    The real question is, who do I think is worth impressing? If you think you might merit that kind of effort, consider this: why would I waste a dozen parsecs at Warp 8 hunting through a thesaurus to wow someone who doesn’t know that sentences begin with upper-case characters? Anyway, watching Feelies fans go apoplectic over a little ribbing is more fun – and safer – than baiting the water moccasins down by the canal with silly expressions, a long pole and threatening gestures. You get the same irritability and indignation, the same utter lack of a sense of humor, but the fangs are usually replaced with gutter vulgarity and a solipsistic conviction that nobody else has learned the definition and/or spelling of any word they haven’t learned yet. What’s more, I get bored with Feelies fans more quickly than with water moccasins, which, when you think about it, are really fascinating in their superb evolutionary adaptation to their ecological niches, as opposed to what really does seem like the congenital maladjustment of Feelies fans.
    Incidentally, did you know that alligators love marshmallows?

  25. Mike Z - Dec 11, 2009 at 12:28 PM

    The moccasins have evolved to the point that they are putting together a MLB team of their own. Unfortunately their ecological niche is Fla. So they are assembling a sub par team with the lowest payroll in baseball. It is surprising that the moccasins can raise the funds needed to assemble a team. They are using the tactics of pandering and laundered drug money; it is the Florida way (those creatures really do adapt well). The Florida Water Vipers, the working name of the start up team, is expected to outsell the Marlins 3 to 1 in ticket sales in their inaugural season.
    I was unaware that alligators enjoy marshmallows. Although I do know that an old gator with too much free time on its hands becomes very ornery.

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