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The Mets and the Reds are working on a deal "with a lot of moving parts"

Dec 17, 2009, 4:47 PM EST

Mark Healey of Baseball Digest reports that the Mets and the Reds are in “serious talks” about a trade involving Bronson Arroyo. Nothing is likely to get done quickly, however, because according to Healey’s source there are multiple other players involved — including more Reds — and because the Mets “have a player under contract that needs to be moved in order for the deal to be expanded,” whatever that means.

The Mets are the rare team that is both pitching starved and who could take on a contract like Arroyo’s, so assuming they’re not giving up the whole world for him, he’s probably worth pursuing.  While at first blush it might seem like a good thing for Arroyo to get away from Great American Ballpark, with the exception of 2009, he’s actually pitched better in that bandbox than he has on the road. Not that Citi Field wouldn’t be a nice place to pitch regardless.

  1. Old Gator - Dec 17, 2009 at 4:55 PM

    Sounds more like a Rube Goldberg contraption than a trade. Does it include dripping water and a dipping kiwi?

  2. John - Dec 17, 2009 at 5:49 PM

    The Mets are taking on yet *another* Red Sox castoff?

  3. Mets in 2011 - Dec 17, 2009 at 5:52 PM

    “have a player under contract that needs to be moved in order for the deal to be expanded”
    Sounds like they want to move Castillo to me…possibly to also get Phillips???

  4. twins2010 - Dec 17, 2009 at 6:32 PM

    Craig, thanks for removing that very disgusting post from Terribletom so quickly. I was just responding to the jack*ss when I saw it was removed. Nice Job!

  5. RoyceTheBaseballHack - Dec 17, 2009 at 7:23 PM

    Sounds like a lot of moving parts, you know? A lotta ins, lotta outs, lotta what-have-you’s….

  6. Jake - Dec 17, 2009 at 9:56 PM

    Bronson Arroyo is a better alternative than Brad Penny and yet no one wants Bronson. Bronson would be a great Yankee. I can see it now on the pages of the NY Post…”Bronson in the Bronx”

  7. GimmeSomeSteel - Dec 17, 2009 at 10:09 PM

    Way to work “The Big Lebowski” into a baseball discussion.

  8. MetsFan - Dec 17, 2009 at 11:37 PM

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz… cliff lee? no thanks. roy halladay? nope. we want ARROYO!!! pathetic.

  9. Mets faithful - Dec 18, 2009 at 1:21 AM

    As a Mets fan I understand that they have a lot of holes to fill. They added to the bullpen with Ryota, are close on Bay and may sign Molina and Marquis. If they can kill two birds with one stone(Arroyo and Phillips), They have the players to make it back to the playoffs. Alot of things just have to go right this off-season.

  10. Melvin - Dec 18, 2009 at 10:14 AM

    Please make this deal it’s a start

  11. izzy - Dec 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM

    the METS….where do I start…..first things first…..Johan Santana isn’t worth the huge contract he received……then again neither is C.C. Sabathia……for that amount of money they both should have posted Denny McLain seasons..(30-5) year in year out….the entire team is in shambles…..there nucleus is getting older by the minute….and (stay with me here) it will take years for them to get over the back to back collapses from 2007 & 2008…..so enjoy the bottom of the division for the next 10 years and just maybe you’ll develop a great rivalry with the Nationals (who by the way will be ahead of you in the division) to spark some fan support…….

  12. Melvin - Dec 18, 2009 at 10:39 AM

    Please make this deal it’s a start

  13. Louie - Dec 18, 2009 at 10:57 AM

    Here we go again,the signing of another latin name player!! What is it with the Mets….they only sign Latin name players!! I always thought that there are more players in the free agent/trade pool that doesn’t have a latin name!!!

  14. Brendo - Dec 18, 2009 at 11:43 AM

    What the hell are you talking about Johan earned every bit of his money there arent going to be 30-5 seasons anymore. Your response is just pure stupidity at its best

  15. Melvin - Dec 18, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    This deal plus Brandon Phillips is a +++++++++++ Also Santana is worth every penny , the team need more Offense & Defense then he would have more wins!!!!!!!

  16. Johnac - Dec 18, 2009 at 2:58 PM

    If you’re the Reds, what do you take for Arroyo and Phillips? (Please say F-Mart! PLEEEASE say F-Mart…!!)

  17. markinmusicity - Dec 18, 2009 at 3:53 PM

    Arroyo is good… he CAN be virtally unhittable for 7/8 innings…

  18. TigerS Boy ToY - Dec 18, 2009 at 4:52 PM

    HOW MANY GOOD WHITE PLAYERS IN MLB, MAYBE EIGHT.

  19. JamesB. - Dec 18, 2009 at 10:43 PM

    How arrogant this author is as well many of the posters. As if the Reds don’t even exist in this supposed deal for Arroyo. I’d rather be a Reds fan than Met fan as far as team upside. The Reds are, at least, young, talented and exciting whereas the Mets are a bunch of over-paid, bloated, under performing losers. If N.Y. were to somehow get Arroyo, they’d have to give up a lot. He may not be Halladay or Lee but Arroyo’s stats speak for themselves.

  20. alby t - Dec 19, 2009 at 12:41 PM

    the reds do have some young, talented and exciting players who will leave for free agency when it’s their time…the team can’t afford to keep their good players when it’s time to pay up; they’re like an unsuccessful version of the marlins…by the way, they had their last winning season 10 frickin’ years ago…i’d rather be a mets fan…also, your chili sucks…

  21. nooooo - Dec 19, 2009 at 10:40 PM

    Get a life NY and go find your own players. Stop going after every ex sox player

  22. seagle - Dec 20, 2009 at 12:38 PM

    Arroyo and Phillips are a geat fit for the mets.
    i would give up Pelfrey or Maine, Castillo, Pagan, and any minor leaguer they want aside from Ike Davis and Josh Thole. I would toss in 4mil also towards Castillos contract. I would then no go after Jason Bay, and get DeRosa to fill in the outfield.

  23. john pileggi - Dec 20, 2009 at 8:17 PM

    This post is now 4 days old. Is the lack of an update a sign it is dead, or that the rumor was untrue, or has the process become secretive all of a sudden? This time of year generates, to state the obvious, a lot of stuff and a great deal is untrue.

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