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Gammons: Bay would rather play in Beirut than Queens

Dec 27, 2009, 10:58 AM EDT

Thumbnail image for Jason Bay headshot.jpg“I think he’d rather be playing in Beirut than Queens.”

– Peter Gammons describes his impression of Jason Bay’s interest, or lack thereof, in signing with the Mets, during an appearance on WEEI in Boston.

Ouch. Reading various Mets’ blogs over the course of the past few days tells me
that at this point the team’s fans are just as disinterested in having Bay as
he is in playing in Citi Field. Call me cynical, but I feel the team’s
interest in Bay had more to do with a hesitancy to get involved in
protracted negotiations with Matt Holliday — the far superior
all-around player — than anything else.

Granted, Bay would provide the Mets with a short-term boost
offensively, but given his age and particular skillset, he’s simply not
worth adding an extra year. A five or six-year contractual commitment
to an all-hit, no field-player in a pitcher’s park would ignore the
real deficiencies of the team. It didn’t make sense upon the team’s
initial interest and it makes even less sense now.

  1. ssgmike - Dec 27, 2009 at 11:40 AM

    For once let Met management show they are not scared and need a player of the calibar of Matt Holliday as a start to turn this team around..offer him 90 million and sign him on 1-1-10.
    Bay is good but not worth the 65m, offer him 3 yrs 30 m and then tell him to take a hike

  2. willmose - Dec 27, 2009 at 11:51 AM

    If $90 mil would sign Holliday he would be gone by now. Unless of course you mean $90 mil over 2 years.

  3. yankeh8r - Dec 27, 2009 at 12:13 PM

    Wonder if he’ll eat crow and accept the former offer of the sox? Is it even still on the table with the addition of cameron? Or maybe sign him for trade bait in a package deal to get rid of lowell? Don’t blame him for not wanting to play in shea but he’s gotta be kicking himself for not staying put in bean town.

  4. inbrooklyn - Dec 27, 2009 at 12:39 PM

    anywhere’s gotta be better than beantown.

  5. John Pileggi - Dec 27, 2009 at 12:43 PM

    The Mets are on the verge of becoming the laughing stock of baseball and have to do something dramatic, or be resigned (and have some angry fans) to a lengthy rebuild. Beltran is in the last 2 years of his deal, Wright did not adjust to Citifield, Reyes was hurt pretty badly in the legs (and he is a speed guy) and Santana may not be the same again. So, the core is in question, and guys who could prop up the core are either gone, do not want to come or beyond the budget. This is a situation that could get ugly, especially since Jeff Wilpon’s primary talent is in being the son of Fred Wilpon, and Minaya is on a short leash and scared. Jerry Manuel can not be feeling all thing positive either.

  6. GimmeSomeSteel - Dec 27, 2009 at 1:21 PM

    On the verge?

  7. Jason - Dec 27, 2009 at 1:48 PM

    So you just stick it out there as fact that Holliday is better than Bay. What are you selling. Are you prejudiced for some reason or do you just have a man crush on Holliday. That name is kind of appealing isn’t it, Matt Holliday. I watched Holliday drop an easy fly ball against the Dodgers in the playoffs. He looked like a deer in the headlights. Matt hit .167 in the playoffs. Not exactly awe inspiring. So what team is Matt going to save. It wasn’t the Cardinal’s or the A’s.

  8. AJ Gallo - Dec 27, 2009 at 1:55 PM

    Bay doesn’t want to play for the Mets. Duh. The way he left them hanging and for so long wasn’t a clear enough message that he never wanted to play for them? Someone needed to be actually told that?

  9. Old Gator - Dec 27, 2009 at 2:35 PM

    Yes, on the verge – if not safely back on the sidewalk and out of range of being splashed when some other team’s bandwagon also passes him by and runs through a puddle. The Mutts have a looooong way to go before they generate the mirth that the Feesh generate down here when they euphemise “cheapshit” with neologisms like “market correction.” At least the Mutts can point with pride to the magnitude of their pretensions. We haven’t even got that much comfort, and there are plenty of us who are delusional enough to take comfort from it if pretensions were even offered to us.

  10. dlp - Dec 27, 2009 at 2:37 PM

    Your opinion is showing. How you think Holliday is “far superior” to Jason Bay is beyond my comprehension. They are both great players but for my money Bay has the bigger upside to go along with the better attitude. It is obvious that he can see how the media and fans in New York can destroy a carreer and he is smart enough to see it before hand.

  11. XTrust_No1X - Dec 27, 2009 at 2:54 PM

    What player in their right mind would want to play for a team, whose hosting town’s name is Flushing? Kinda has the true meaning of the Mutt’s franchise huh? Hehehe Add in the fact, they play seconf fiddle to the Greatest Professional Sports Franchise in history, al la the Legendary New York Yankees. I’m sure Jason Bay is just like every other MLB player, whose fantasy’s that go all the way back to their childhood’s, to wear the Legendary New York Yankees Pinstripes, so why would any of them lower themselves to wear the uniform of a team that has only won twice in their history? Jason Bay has a lot more class than to wear the uniform of a team of losers! Bay has shown me something, that he wants the best chance to get to a World Series and possibly a Championship ring, it’s just to bad he isn’t good enough to wear the uniform of Champions.

  12. john pileggi - Dec 27, 2009 at 2:57 PM


  13. GimmeSomeSteel - Dec 27, 2009 at 5:14 PM

    No offense intended toward you, of course. I think it’s a given that Omar and his merry men are clueless and have little to offer a free agent except money.

  14. Old Gator - Dec 27, 2009 at 5:34 PM

    Oh, you got that part about the New York media right. I suspect that Bay was visited in his sleep by the ghost of Roger Maris, you know, the way the ghost of Bogart visited Woody Allen in Play it Again Sam – who warned him that he’d be out of his mind to jump into a swimming pool full of sharks, piranhas, salt water crocodiles and Pfiesteria piscicidia like the ones who write for the Gotham papers or squawk for its radio stations.

  15. summerof67 - Dec 27, 2009 at 6:28 PM

    I’m sorry, but I cannot imagine Bay playing in the NL – again, if you count the Pirates as a major league team.
    And there would be no worse match for his defensive skills than LF at Citi Field. Even at this young age, he is more of a DH – he should play in the AL as long as there IS a DH. Well, can he run after fly balls in Yankee Stadium’s Death Valley? C’mon, Brian Cashman knows better.
    And the perfect match for his swing – 81 games a year – is Fenway Park. But Jason already told the Sox that he would pass on their offer, so there it is. Where you playing next year, Jason?
    Curious. Sox are going to make Jeremy Hermida his replacement in LF – which tells you something about the way Jason played LF anyway, and they consider Hermida an upgrade. Well, alrighty then!! Feel free to disagree! Or maybe the Sawx will ask Mike Cameron to play LF.
    Anyway, the fact that Bay and Holliday do not have deals yet with any AL team is, by itself, a comment on how GMs are limiting their spending. Collusion? Heavens! What a thought! Why, no, those AL GMs are just being, uh, frugal.

  16. jerseyjoehaven - Dec 27, 2009 at 9:49 PM

    Stick a fork in the Mets, opps Mutts. Mutts not taking on any free agents that cost any real baseball money. Look for them in fourth place to basement for years to come. The Mutts are the Knicks opps Snicks of the Thomas years come back, the new laughing stocks of sports.

  17. jerseyjoehaven - Dec 27, 2009 at 9:53 PM

    If you can say the Pirates are a major league team you can say the same for the NY Mets, opps I did it again, The NY Mutts.

  18. JakeMan - Dec 27, 2009 at 10:51 PM

    The Mets go after the wrong guy again. They need a defense oriented team that has speed. Their park is just not fit for power hitters. So if they sign a power hitter, they automatically reduce his value by playing in that park half the time, yet they don’t understand this.
    I thought Coco Crisp for LF would have been a nice choice for them, can play great defense, would be cheap, and can hit doubles. And that would’ve have left them more money to upgrade elsewhere like 1B or pitching.
    There is a reason why the Mets are so poorly run, and its because they focus in on name value rather than real value. Bay in Citi becomes a 25 HR type guy, with a low BA, without even accounting for normal regression due to age as the contract goes on. Top it off with a defense that actually might have Mets fans yearning for the return on Daniel Murphy in the OF, and he’s over-valued.

  19. Jezzo - Dec 28, 2009 at 1:03 AM

    Hey Theo, Hi this is Jason…Jason Bay your leftfielder from last year…Oh really, well I think there was a little misunderstanding.
    No, I said…I think it was time to move on with a contract…not from Boston. OH boy, your a funny guy Theo…I really don’t need four years…how about that three years for like $30 million or whatever you can afford to pay me P-L-E-A-S-E!

  20. Eat a Peach - Dec 28, 2009 at 5:49 AM

    Gotta love the Wilpons. It’s not that they aren’t trying to win, it’s that they have so much more money than brains that they can’t get out of their own way. Richer than God? Invest with Bernie Madoff. Spending more money on player salaries than the Feesh, Padres and Jolly Rogers put together by more than $20 million? Doesn’t matter. It’s still money being spent by idiots, full of sound and fury, winning nothing. The Feesh spent $112 million less than the Mutts, to win 17 more games. To complain about 2 different “market corrections” immediately following WS titles could make one seem callous and indifferent to the suffering of Mets fans. To have Omar Minaya, who took over for Isiah Thomas and then Jim Bowden as the worst executive in sports, and to have the best executive in sports across town in the Bronx … well … it must be intolerable. No true Mets fan should attend or watch another game until Omar is gone.

  21. Frank H. - Dec 28, 2009 at 8:18 AM

    I am so happy because he does not want to play for the Mets.
    He does not have a good stat numbers in his career and his only reason he have a good stat past season because it is his final year of contract. This is not a smart move to sign or offer more money/year to him. Omar, Please forget about him and move forward with somebody else such as No. 2 pitcher and first baseman more importment than Jason Bay.

  22. Old Gator - Dec 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM

    There are no “true Met fans,” only self-hating Borg fans and Citibank executives who can afford skyboxes. As far as any more idealistically motivated types, there used to be, sure. But by now everyone who was still around when the Bums and Jints left town is dead.

  23. JudyJ - Dec 28, 2009 at 1:01 PM

    I am a Yankee fan, but still live in the metro region of NY. The Mets are nuts to go after Bay anyway – he is a marginally, sufficient fielder – nothing to write home about. He is a NL guy who played in front of the Green Monster. If Boston wants him let them pay the freight. The Mets need pitching – more than any outfielder on the market. Come on – we don’t want any more headlines like Meet the Mess.

  24. TigerS Boy ToY - Dec 28, 2009 at 4:50 PM

    The SAD THING is the Mets have the third or fourth
    highest salary in baseball WITH A SPARKLING NEW STADIUM
    and the fans STILL have to suffer.
    Omar, Jerry, adios fellas, I doubt you will finish the year.
    Met fans can only hope the Wilpons SELL the team.

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