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Help on the way for the Pirates?

Dec 27, 2009, 6:18 PM EDT

Dejan Kovacevic of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette believes that Pirates president Frank Coonelly doesn’t expect the club to deviate from their current plan, even as general manager Neal Huntington and manager John Russell enter the final year of their respective contracts:

1. Lame-duck years will not be regarded any differently by the
Pirates than any other years, and allowing someone to enter a lame-duck
year without an extension will not be seen as a lack of faith.

2. Coonelly would prefer that those under him never go into survival
mode and attempt short-term solutions that deviate from the team’s
overall plan. By not focusing on contract terms or arbitrary lame-duck
precedents, the concept goes, those involved are less inclined to
single out any year as one in which it would be OK to abandon the plan.

3. Coonelly displays a strong, genuine and unwavering confidence in Huntington and Russell.

  1. pepe - Dec 27, 2009 at 7:18 PM

    This team stinks, the organization stinks and the Pirates never drew even when they were winning championships in the 1970s. It’s a football town. I say liquidate.

  2. BarryBonds - Dec 28, 2009 at 12:48 AM

    this team has been nothing since Barry Bonds left town.
    pirate fans – you might as just watch these flasher girls http://bit.ly/sportsknockers to keep going in the cold Pittsburgh winter. at least the Pens and Steelers are decent.

  3. Eat a Peach - Dec 28, 2009 at 5:38 AM

    Come on y’all, you’re making Willie Stargell roll around in his grave.
    Everyone can see we’re together
    When we walk on byyyyye
    And we fly just like birds of a feather
    I can tell no liiieeeiieeiiee
    ALL!
    All of the people around us they say
    Can they be that clooooose
    Just let me state for the record
    We’re giving love in a family dose
    We are Family
    I got all my sisters with me
    We are Family
    Get up everybody SING!

  4. Ol'Froth - Dec 28, 2009 at 7:10 AM

    Pepe, where were you during the 70’s? That place was full when the Pirates were winning championships and 3 Rivers was a lousy baseball stadium.
    The town is a winners town. I remember when the Penguins were a walkup ticket, the Igloo didn’t start selling out until they started winning. And while the Steelers sell out every game, I remember seeing lots of empty seats a 3 Rivers during the Neil O’Donnell years.
    WHen the Pirates start winning again, I bet you’ll be one of the first to jump on the bandwagon.

  5. pepe - Dec 28, 2009 at 8:48 AM

    Nothing personal to Ol’ Froth and the Pirate fans who actually still care to show up to the ballpark but when you see old highlight reels of the Pirates in the playoffs and World Series, of course the ballpark is packed with fans. But, if you check the Baseball Reference website you’ll see the Pirates were 10th of 12 in National League attendance in 1979. They drew a bit better in the early 70s, usually 5th or 6th in the NL, but considering the strength of those teams they should have drawing much, much better. Their Leyland-Bonds half-pennant winning teams of the early ’90s finished anywhere from 6th to 8th in NL attendance. Pittsburgh may be a winner’s town but it isn’t a baseball town and that’s too bad because it looks like they’ve got a nice ballpark there.

  6. Joey B - Dec 28, 2009 at 9:18 AM

    The problem that PT has is that it is simply a small town. I’ve been there, and it’s a nice town, but they’ve had a serious population erosion over the years, and having a college town persona, while certainly not a bad thing, is hardly conducive to a large attendance. It’s simply not going to be NY, Chicago, LA, or SF.
    IRT the team, I think they’ve done an excellent job recently. I’m glad to see that they’ve abandoned the philosophy of trading for Matt Morris in an attempt to win 75 instead of 70.

  7. Old Gator - Dec 28, 2009 at 11:33 AM

    Barrrrffff!
    For future reference, Peach, I am and (with the notable exceptions of the Grateful Dead, Cowboy Junkies and Over the Rhine) always have been a jazz snob. There may be one or two other popular music forms that I can deal with but please, refrain from quoting disco tunes – especially in their emetic entirety – if you want to be my friend, OK?

  8. Eat a Peach - Dec 28, 2009 at 11:40 AM

    Hee hee ha ha and ho ho
    Just trying to bring some local pride and spirit to the downtrodden inhabitants of the conjunction of the 3 rivers.
    Side note I saw Bob and Phil with Furthur a few weeks ago, pleasantly surprised at how tight they were, also they gave me a sweet little Eleven. Bob finally got old though, sure took him long enough. While everyone was focusing on the strangeness of Keith Richards still being alive, Bob Weir was busy not aging at all. Richards has spent 20 years looking more like an animated corpse than John Quincy Adams, while Bob still looked like a Ken doll. Just goes to show you the value of misdirection.

  9. DiamondDuq - Dec 28, 2009 at 12:58 PM

    The Pirates have always had a good farm system, just a few years ago every one of their affiliates won their respective leagues. The problem is, as soon as those players develop into good enough players that they have to pay them anywhere near market value they bail on them. Sure the path the Pirates are on looks appealing, if you haven’t seen this one before, but anyone who knows anything about baseball knows all these bright young prospects are merely in the extended minor leagues with the Pirates and are essentially auditioning for a trade/free agent contract since all the Pirates are good at is taking their luxury tax and revenue sharing money and shoving in their pockets rather than reinvesting and compensating their young talent so they can build and maintain a quality team.

  10. Joey B - Dec 28, 2009 at 1:40 PM

    “The Pirates have always had a good farm system, just a few years ago every one of their affiliates won their respective leagues. The problem is, as soon as those players develop into good enough players that they have to pay them anywhere near market value they bail on them.”
    And the name of the guys you developed and left for monetary reasons? Wilson is okay. Sanchez you got from Boston. Gonzalez is good, not great, and was traded three years before he became a FA. Bay came from SD. Aramis maybe, but he was still traded when he was still affordable.
    Not trying to bust chops, but I’m not really seeing a parade of all stars developed by PT that left because you couldn’t afford them. Maybe if you went back to the early ’90s, but not a heck of a lot of development recently.

  11. TigerS Boy ToY - Dec 28, 2009 at 2:47 PM

    GOD couldn’t help the Pirates ………………..
    AT LEAST THE OWNER PUT ALOT OF YANKEE OWNER GEORGE STEINBRENERS
    MONEY IN HIS POCKET, WHY SHOULD HE WORRY ABOUT THE FANS AND THAT
    AWFUL MINOR LEAGUE TEAM HE PUTS ON THE FIELD. GOOD THING THE
    YANKEES WON THE WORLD SERIES, AGAIN, AT LEAST THEY CAN HAND THIS
    GUY AS MUCH MONEY AS HE WANTS TO STEAL FROM THE FANS.

  12. TigerS Boy ToY - Dec 28, 2009 at 2:52 PM

    DUDE, IT’S 2010, I REMEMBER WHEN, WHERE WERE YOU REMINDS YOU OF ONE THING, THE PIRATES USE TO WIN A LONG, LONG, LONG TIME AGO.

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