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	<title>Comments on: UPDATE: Cards reportedly offer Holliday 8-year deal</title>
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		<title>By: Lynn Steadham</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19610</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lynn Steadham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 16:24:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Diplomacy is the art of saying &quot;nice doggy&quot; until you can find a rock.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Diplomacy is the art of saying &#8220;nice doggy&#8221; until you can find a rock.</p>
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		<title>By: YANKEES1996</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19609</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[YANKEES1996]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 15:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just cannot see Holliday or Bay being worth the money that they are getting or being rumored to be getting. There are reasons that the big free agent players did not roll out the large contracts for these guys, I guess the smaller teams are overlooking the things that the big teams were worried about!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just cannot see Holliday or Bay being worth the money that they are getting or being rumored to be getting. There are reasons that the big free agent players did not roll out the large contracts for these guys, I guess the smaller teams are overlooking the things that the big teams were worried about!</p>
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		<title>By: TigerS Boy ToY</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19608</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TigerS Boy ToY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AND 8 YEARS @ 16 MILLION IS NOT BETTER]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AND 8 YEARS @ 16 MILLION IS NOT BETTER</p>
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		<title>By: TigerS Boy ToY</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TigerS Boy ToY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DO THE RIGHT THING, WTF DOES HE OWE THE CARDINALS]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DO THE RIGHT THING, WTF DOES HE OWE THE CARDINALS</p>
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		<title>By: TigerS Boy ToY</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TigerS Boy ToY]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 12:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[George Bush  A BIG THING ???  A BIG DOUCHE THAT&#039;S WHAT HE IS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>George Bush  A BIG THING ???  A BIG DOUCHE THAT&#8217;S WHAT HE IS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19605</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best thing to come out of Texas since George Bush?  Not sure if that&#039;s the best of selling points, but I also hope the Yankees save their loot for Crawford.  He would be the perfect Yankee.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best thing to come out of Texas since George Bush?  Not sure if that&#8217;s the best of selling points, but I also hope the Yankees save their loot for Crawford.  He would be the perfect Yankee.</p>
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		<title>By: Verno</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Verno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Get it right:  But if you talk to the players in the league they will also tell you the Cards have the best fans, and the nicest fans.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get it right:  But if you talk to the players in the league they will also tell you the Cards have the best fans, and the nicest fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Shely</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shely]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey get it right. Why do the fans in Beantown or NYC or Phily get to call themselves the best or second best etc. etc.. To me the most ridic boast ever, is that the Red Sox are the second best team in baseball history, because the lost to the Yankees so many times. Only morons will go with that one. Or the Sox lose so magnificantly, they are the best. Can you believe that one? In Cinti., we have only one boast.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey get it right. Why do the fans in Beantown or NYC or Phily get to call themselves the best or second best etc. etc.. To me the most ridic boast ever, is that the Red Sox are the second best team in baseball history, because the lost to the Yankees so many times. Only morons will go with that one. Or the Sox lose so magnificantly, they are the best. Can you believe that one? In Cinti., we have only one boast.</p>
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		<title>By: P.J.</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[P.J.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seth is correct. Matt should sign with the Cards @ $16+ a year for as long as he can get from them (6-8 yrs) and then be happy that he is playing in front of the maybe the best fans in baseball. Why squeeze the last bit of juice out of baseball so that Boras can prove he is the best agent. Check the testasterone at the door-sign and get ready for Spring in Florida. These guys are holding out for crazy amounts of money as the working class families pay the bills. What would Mays, Aaron, Mantle, Musial, Koufax,and Bob Gibson get in today&#039;s marketplace? Can you say part owner!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seth is correct. Matt should sign with the Cards @ $16+ a year for as long as he can get from them (6-8 yrs) and then be happy that he is playing in front of the maybe the best fans in baseball. Why squeeze the last bit of juice out of baseball so that Boras can prove he is the best agent. Check the testasterone at the door-sign and get ready for Spring in Florida. These guys are holding out for crazy amounts of money as the working class families pay the bills. What would Mays, Aaron, Mantle, Musial, Koufax,and Bob Gibson get in today&#8217;s marketplace? Can you say part owner!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19601</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 09:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Holiday should have stayed in Colorado, Rockies offered him $18 mill a yr for 4 years..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holiday should have stayed in Colorado, Rockies offered him $18 mill a yr for 4 years..</p>
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		<title>By: phillyphan</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19600</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phillyphan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 08:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mets still suck]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mets still suck</p>
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		<title>By: stargatebabe</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19599</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[stargatebabe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 07:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  I sure don&#039;t want that money-hungry, egotistical, can&#039;t-make-a-catch idiot in STL for 8 freaking years!  UGH!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!  I sure don&#8217;t want that money-hungry, egotistical, can&#8217;t-make-a-catch idiot in STL for 8 freaking years!  UGH!</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19598</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 03:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;get it right please!
seth
there are 30 teams in baseball, who all have a fanbase, it&#039;s rather HUBRIS of Cardinals fans to call themselves THE BEST FANS&quot;
Hubris is a noun, not an adjective. Let&#039;s get it right, please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;get it right please!<br />
seth<br />
there are 30 teams in baseball, who all have a fanbase, it&#8217;s rather HUBRIS of Cardinals fans to call themselves THE BEST FANS&#8221;<br />
Hubris is a noun, not an adjective. Let&#8217;s get it right, please.</p>
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		<title>By: CK Dexter Haven</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CK Dexter Haven]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How many players are worth $16 Million per year at age 40?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many players are worth $16 Million per year at age 40?</p>
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		<title>By: Pitchers Hit Eighth</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/12/29/hollidays-asking-price-drops-cards-optimistic/comment-page-1/#comment-19596</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pitchers Hit Eighth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I still don&#039;t believe that the Cards are offering a guaranteed 8 years.
I&#039;m certain that I can be proven wrong, but 5 guaranteed with vesting options and/or a buy-out at that point but a &quot;total&quot; of 8 years possible seems more likely.
Doesn&#039;t make a lot of sense to increase the already best offer on the table, unless Boras is working his voodoo again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still don&#8217;t believe that the Cards are offering a guaranteed 8 years.<br />
I&#8217;m certain that I can be proven wrong, but 5 guaranteed with vesting options and/or a buy-out at that point but a &#8220;total&#8221; of 8 years possible seems more likely.<br />
Doesn&#8217;t make a lot of sense to increase the already best offer on the table, unless Boras is working his voodoo again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: renliqin04</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[renliqin04]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 02:35:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First of all, single family financial need to have had some savings. For example, the list of living expenses, protection scheme, financial investment in three categories, as well as short-term plans and long-term plans. According to its own from the bank, insurance and other financial institutions, consulting to the situation, the needs will be the first to make budgetary spending. Vision received monthly wages, stay out of their daily expenses and some proper cash flow, how much money can be saved or invested the rest. Then, the general assets can be divided into five copies, respectively, investment bonds, insurance, stocks.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ecmall.us&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.ecmall.us&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all, single family financial need to have had some savings. For example, the list of living expenses, protection scheme, financial investment in three categories, as well as short-term plans and long-term plans. According to its own from the bank, insurance and other financial institutions, consulting to the situation, the needs will be the first to make budgetary spending. Vision received monthly wages, stay out of their daily expenses and some proper cash flow, how much money can be saved or invested the rest. Then, the general assets can be divided into five copies, respectively, investment bonds, insurance, stocks.<br />
<a href="http://www.ecmall.us" rel="nofollow">http://www.ecmall.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Seriously?</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Seriously?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 01:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not that this is an original argument, but you&#039;re telling me $16 million a year isn&#039;t enough for a guy and his family to get by on?  No wonder it costs $200 to take your family to a game in seats where you can barely see what&#039;s going on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not that this is an original argument, but you&#8217;re telling me $16 million a year isn&#8217;t enough for a guy and his family to get by on?  No wonder it costs $200 to take your family to a game in seats where you can barely see what&#8217;s going on.</p>
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		<title>By: get it right please!</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[get it right please!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 00:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[seth
there are 30 teams in baseball, who all have a fanbase, it&#039;s rather HUBRIS of Cardinals fans to call themselves  THE BEST FANS!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>seth<br />
there are 30 teams in baseball, who all have a fanbase, it&#8217;s rather HUBRIS of Cardinals fans to call themselves  THE BEST FANS!</p>
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		<title>By: VoiceofYankeeFanboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VoiceofYankeeFanboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:26:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Yankees are gonna sign Carl Crawford next year, the biggest thing to come out of Texas since George Bush.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Yankees are gonna sign Carl Crawford next year, the biggest thing to come out of Texas since George Bush.</p>
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		<title>By: seth</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[seth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[holliday needs to get rid of boras so he can just do the right thing and sign in st. louis where he will hit in a great lineup and play for the best fans in baseball]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>holliday needs to get rid of boras so he can just do the right thing and sign in st. louis where he will hit in a great lineup and play for the best fans in baseball</p>
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		<title>By: metsstem</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[metsstem]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:58:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the Mets should get Leo Mazzone.  I also think they should sign Sheets, Bedard, Mike Jacobs and Joe Beimel.
I like Santos and Thole behind the plate with a pitching coach like Mazzone.  But with Warthen, you may need a Molina type.  Warthen has a long way to go to get to Mazzone status.  He recently said he wants to get back into coaching.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Mets should get Leo Mazzone.  I also think they should sign Sheets, Bedard, Mike Jacobs and Joe Beimel.<br />
I like Santos and Thole behind the plate with a pitching coach like Mazzone.  But with Warthen, you may need a Molina type.  Warthen has a long way to go to get to Mazzone status.  He recently said he wants to get back into coaching.</p>
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		<title>By: VoiceofYankeeFanboy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[VoiceofYankeeFanboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cash isn&#039;t gonna sign Holliday because we&#039;re gonna sign Carl Crawford (who&#039;s a young Willie Mays)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash isn&#8217;t gonna sign Holliday because we&#8217;re gonna sign Carl Crawford (who&#8217;s a young Willie Mays)</p>
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