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Marty Noble thinks you 'ought to get a life'

Jan 19, 2010, 2:52 PM EDT

MLB.com Mets beat writer Marty Noble, responding to criticism of his Hall of Fame ballot:

And those who have their noses pressed against their computer screens and think VORP is a valid means of measuring a player’s performance ought to get a life and a credential that would allow them to see and hear the game up close. Then determine the players whose numbers actually contribute to winning and those who are equipped only add the next run in a 15-3 game.

In other words, anyone who likes to go beyond century-old stuff like batting averages, wins, and RBIs when evaluating a player’s performance is just a loser who can’t possibly know anything without a “credential” that allows them to watch games “up close” from inside a press box. Glad that’s settled.
If you’re curious, Noble’s ballot named two players this year: Barry Larkin and Dave Parker. And based on his unique ability “to see and hear the game up close” by way of a media credential, Noble called Parker “the best player I ever have covered.” Seriously. Parker was certainly a fine player, but I’ll take VORP over whatever credential-fueled viewpoint leads to that nonsense any day.
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  1. DSFC - Jan 19, 2010 at 3:00 PM

    You hear this line of criticism a lot from the pashas of the press box. I wonder what it is that they divine from “up close” that one can’t glean from watching the game on TV and checking out a press box. Nose hairs? Clogged pores?

  2. dprat - Jan 19, 2010 at 3:07 PM

    Nose hairs and clogged pores for all… thank you, HD TV!

  3. Josh Johnson - Jan 19, 2010 at 3:09 PM

    zing!

  4. IdahoMariner - Jan 19, 2010 at 3:28 PM

    and as soon as he said “up close” I was visualizing the series of photos from inside various press boxes that Geoff Baker adds to his blog posts… “Up close”? not very. and I’m not sure how much of the game they actually get to see when they are raiding the ice cream machines….

  5. excatcher - Jan 19, 2010 at 3:30 PM

    Does anyone even use VORP anymore? All I see anymore in the databases and spreadsheets is WAR and RAR.

  6. Jamie - Jan 19, 2010 at 4:04 PM

    Marty Noble hasn’t left the house since 2004. In addition to VORP, he’s also unimpressed with “The O.C.” and Wilco’s “Yankee Hotel Foxtrot” album.

  7. moreflagsmorefun - Jan 19, 2010 at 4:21 PM

    John Heyman MLB NETWORK said he never thought he was watching a Hall of Famer when he watched Bert Blyleven pitch …………. okay.
    He then said that Randy Johnson was a first ballot Hall of Famer…
    funny thing is Randy Johnson stunk his first five years in the league , he couldn’t find the strike zone, couldn’t figure out his body and lead the league in walks twice, he was traded to Seattle where he stunk it up his first year and then had a work out
    with Ryan and was fixed.
    I tell you fellas all the time, HOF VOTING IS A POPULARITY THING.
    Marty Noble stated he didn’t vote for Robbie because he spit at the Ump and he didn’t play hard a few times when Marty was watching him play for the Mets, this I can respect because Marty said ” it happened on the field of play”, he did admit Robbie is a HOF AND said ” WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHEN HE GET’S IN”

  8. moreflagsmorefun - Jan 19, 2010 at 4:25 PM

    John Heyman MLB NETWORK said he never thought he was watching a Hall of Famer when he watched Bert Blyleven pitch …………. okay.
    He then said that Randy Johnson was a first ballot Hall of Famer…
    funny thing is Randy Johnson stunk his first five years in the league , he couldn’t find the strike zone, couldn’t figure out his body and lead the league in walks twice, he was traded to Seattle where he stunk it up his first year and then had a work out
    with Ryan and was fixed.
    I tell you fellas all the time, HOF VOTING IS A POPULARITY THING.
    Marty Noble stated he didn’t vote for Robbie because he spit at the Ump and he didn’t play hard a few times when Marty was watching him play for the Mets, this I can respect because Marty said ” it happened on the field of play”, he did admit Robbie is a HOF AND said ” WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHEN HE GET’S IN”

  9. PaddyC - Jan 19, 2010 at 5:31 PM

    Well at least it looks like he watches the game which is more than I can say for a lot of stats boys.

  10. Joey B - Jan 19, 2010 at 5:36 PM

    “He then said that Randy Johnson was a first ballot Hall of Famer…funny thing is Randy Johnson stunk his first five years in the league , he couldn’t find the strike zone, couldn’t figure out his body and lead the league in walks twice,”
    There is no comparison between Blyleven and Johnson. I like Blyleven, I’d be pleased to see him get in, I don’t like RJ, but RJ is a 1st ballot, and Blyleven is real questionable.

  11. Joey B - Jan 19, 2010 at 5:47 PM

    And poor Marty is stoned out of his gourd if Parker is the best player he ever saw. He hit 30 HRs 3 times. Wow. An .810 career OPS. wow. Good call on Larkin, but Larkin is easily twice the player Parker was.

  12. Paul Zummo - Jan 20, 2010 at 9:37 AM

    HA HA HA! You are so completely original! The stats guys never watch baseball. Obviously we devote hours of our lives pouring over stats and graphs for a sport that we don’t watch. That makes complete sense.
    Dumbass.

  13. Mark Himmelstein - Jan 20, 2010 at 2:41 PM

    This wins

  14. PaddyC - Jan 22, 2010 at 8:31 PM

    Yes, your right; but everybody knows that. No use in stating the obvious. Your admission to not watching the games though is about as revealing as Mark McGwire’s admission to using steroids. I don’t get that last word though. Do you have tourrettes or did your mother just catch you downloading porn.

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