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Johan Santana says he's better than Roy Halladay

Feb 18, 2010, 12:23 PM EST

David Lennon of Newsday tweets from Mets’ spring training:

When Johan was asked to name best pitcher in NL East, he replied, “Santana.” Hear that Halladay?

I may be a Braves fan, but I can think of nothing I’m looking forward to more this season than watching Johan Santana and Roy Halladay battling to figure out the real answer to that question.

The beauty of it: no matter which of those two lose, all the rest of us win by seeing such pitching awesomeness.

  1. Jonny5 - Feb 18, 2010 at 6:22 PM

    Dude, you’re fooling yourself. Although Santana is one of the best pitchers there is, he will not hold that ERA for 11 years. uh uh… And with the win to loss ratio, well lets just say halladay was on the Ahem, terrible blue jays. You can’t just look at numbers. BTW much respect to Santana.

  2. Prionogenic Man - Feb 18, 2010 at 9:39 PM

    “But seriously – it’d take some sort of heretofore undiscovered prion-vectored neurological disease to attack Newsday so viciously that it caught up to the Post…”
    The prion is not the vector for disease, but is the infectious agent itself. Please understand something before using it in a statement

  3. jen - Feb 19, 2010 at 1:52 AM

    Never thought I would be agreeing with a Yankee fan, but I too think Roy will have a no hitter this year. Most NL fans will readily admit that they haven’t seen Doc pitch much.
    Get ready for a surprise.

  4. MVD - Feb 19, 2010 at 3:17 AM

    In his dreams. Johan needs to prove he’s better than CC, Lincecum, Zach Greinke, and probably Chris Carpenter before he even considers challenging Roy Halladay. Doc is going to destroy the National League.

  5. Benny Blanco - Feb 19, 2010 at 9:30 AM

    What has Lincecum and Greinke done to procve there better than Johan?
    Let them pitch a few more years and stay consistent before you say they are better than Johan.

  6. DavRuz14 - Feb 19, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    Santana’s the beast of the east and he gave the right answer, but that was truly a “person in training” type of question from Newsday.

  7. DiamondDuq - Feb 19, 2010 at 1:30 PM

    Health may not have as much to do with it as you would like to believe. When both at the best we’ve seen them Santana was probably better but we haven’t seen Santana’s absolute best since he was in Minnesota, even when completely healthy. On the other hand, Halladay’s best has been more recent and he’s far more consistent than Santana. 4-6 years ago it was hands down Santana but now it’s definitely Halladay, then again, it’s a new year so anything could happen.

  8. Omega in Colorado - Feb 19, 2010 at 1:50 PM

    I like Johan’s confidence in himself, now, is he going to be confident in being surrounded by a healthy team that can give him run support?
    Halladay has that amazing Phillies lineup to fall back on. I will be shocked if they don’t contend for and win the NL pennant again this year (coming from a Rockos and Cubbies fan here).
    So with those two factors considered I would have to pick Halladay on being the better of the two, or at least in the better situation.

  9. johnnynewguy - Feb 20, 2010 at 5:23 AM

    Just going to throw a couple of things out there for you all to mull on. A) Halladay got no 1st or 2nd place votes this past season in the AL and got 11 3rd place votes coming in 5th in total Cy Young voting. Santana wasn’t on the list. B) The Braves big 3 of Maddux, Glavine, and Smoltz, none of them ever pitched no hitters so how Kelly and Jen can you guys justify that Doc will get a no hitter this year? All three of those guys were better than both Doc and Santana in their primes and they have the hardware to prove it. C)In response to Hot Rod, the numbers that you posted don’t prove jack. Halladay has never been on a winning team whereas Santana has been to the postseason 4 times including once to the ALCS and has been on one Mets team which should have and could have made it to the postseason. What I am trying to say is that Johan has been on significantly better teams for his career than Doc. D) There are just as many other good pitching matchups as these two for the upcoming season. Off the top of my head, interdivision matchups include Greinke v. Buerhle, Lincecum v. Haren, Lincecum v. Webb, Verlander v. Greinke, Beckett v. C.C.(along w/ a host of other combos between those two teams), Josh Johnson v. Halladay, Johnson v. Santana, Hudson v. Halladay, Hudson v. Santana, Hudson v. Johnson. The list goes on. Lastly, who gives a crap because if neither team wins the division (which is what I think will happen b/c the Braves have a much deeper rotation than either team) than what difference does it make? Exactly,…….. none.

  10. Joel - Mar 7, 2010 at 10:09 PM

    Both are great – but no contest – Halladay hands down is better. In 313 career games / 287 starts, Doc has 49 complete games, 15 shutouts and 148 wins
    Santana has appeared in 310 games with 234 starts, has 9 complete games, 6 shutouts and 122 wins
    No one has Doc’s #’s – not evenCC, though he’s close
    Check your facts — Doc is the best active pitcher in the majors and he will take the Phils all the way!

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