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Quote of the Day: Dayton Moore

Mar 5, 2010, 8:52 AM EDT

Royals GM Dayton Moore:

“I wouldn’t expect the Glass family to employ us if we didn’t feel we
could win a championship in Kansas City. When is that
going to happen? I don’t know. We’re going to continue to concentrate
on getting better each day. And then some day we’re going to wake up
and be good.”

I’d probably give the “wake up and be good” line a pass if there was any evidence whatsoever that Moore has a coherent plan for the Royals. As it is, however, I really think the plan is for him to pray before he goes to bed every night and hope like hell something good happens.

  1. Jamie - Mar 5, 2010 at 9:06 AM

    Step 1: The Process.
    Step 2: ???
    Step 3: Wake up good.
    Now I totally understand what they’ve been doing over there.

  2. BC - Mar 5, 2010 at 9:27 AM

    Jeez, maybe this guy IS worse than Minaya…

  3. Andy - Mar 5, 2010 at 9:38 AM

    Craig, most people are completely indifferent to the Royals. Not you. You are as much of a hater as anyone I’ve ever read. We all know they suck. But pick on someone your own size for once.

  4. Old Gator - Mar 5, 2010 at 9:54 AM

    What is this “hater” stuff anyway? You sound like you’ve been listening to way too much Sean Hannity commenting on Colbert. Doesn’t anyone know the difference between hate and contempt anymore?
    Look, some people – if they are people and not disenfranchised bots or AIs loose in the matrix and just a step ahead of the Turing Squad – accuse me of hating the Feesh. Nothing could be further from the truth, especially during Lent. I love the Feesh with a love as pure and true as any Provencale troubador ever bore his lady up there on the balcony (where he couldn’t actually see how bad her acne was). But their ownership? Heh heh, that there is another diegesis altogether. The situation here is a little different even if the causes and results are the same: tightwad ownership, subpar performances. But you won’t hear me knocking Larry Beinfest. His hands are tied like Nell on the railroad tracks. Still, he brings us guys who become good enough soon enough that when Scrooge McLoria jettisons them for a handful of EYPs it used to break our hearts until, like the evil others in Bob Dylan’s “Senor,” our hearts are hard as leather and we seem not to give a crap anymore.
    Dayton Moore, on the other hand, is like a penny-ante version of Jim Bowden or even Isaiah Thomas. He just doesn’t seem to have a clue. About all I can say for Kansas City taxpayers is, be grateful that he lacks the imagination to wake up in the morning and realize that he needs a new stadium.

  5. Joey B - Mar 5, 2010 at 9:56 AM

    It would’ve been interesting if someone had asked him what part of the process Crisp, Jacobs, Farnsworth, Cruz played. Those guys cost them Ramirez, Nunez, a #2 pick, and a ton of cash. After just one year, two of them are gone, and the other two are there simply because they can’t get rid of them. It’s tough to judge a GM until you get a chance to see how their draft picks develop, but I’m not seeing the plan.

  6. Andy - Mar 5, 2010 at 10:24 AM

    Craig, you’ve never heard “hater” before? Ha!
    I just started following Hardball Talk on Twitter about three months ago or so, and I’ve been amazed how many times I’ve seen posts about the Royals. And they’re all from you. NOBODY in the national media (except Rob Neyer who grew up a Royals fan and is now bitter towards them) gives them this much attention. I am simply pointing out my observation that you acknowledge them more than others national writers/bloggers. And when you do, it’s always with obvious sarcasm and hostility.
    I don’t expect you to know this, (I don’t live in or near KC, but I’ve followed the Royals since I was young and still do), but the Royals DID try to get a new stadium in downtown KC a few years ago. It didn’t happen because of the tax implications. However, the taxpayers did approve a (something like) 100million dollar renovation. Have you ever been to the K? They don’t NEED a new stadium. Their stadium although built in the late 60’s is still regarded as one of the better stadiums in baseball. The only reason they pursued the option was because they were trying to revitalize downtown KC and the stadium is far out.
    I think you missed my point. I’m not saying, “quit picking on us.” I’m just saying, “Dang! Where is this coming from?” I’ve just never seen it before.
    To your point, SI just ran a post about the best and worst GMs and Moore was at the bottom. I thought he’d be a stud coming out of the Atlanta system a few years earlier. If my memory serves me correctly, I believe the Red Sox pursued him along with another team a year or so before he went to KC, but they were turned down.

  7. Brian - Mar 5, 2010 at 11:19 AM

    Comment fail. Old Gator is not Craig. Know who you’re arguing with.

  8. JasonC23 - Mar 5, 2010 at 11:23 AM

    “I think you missed my point.”
    Ah, sweet irony.

  9. YankeesfanLen - Mar 5, 2010 at 12:20 PM

    Andy, I’ll introduce you to the program, we’re not real sharp with Twitter around here.
    To keep things fair, our AL whipping-boys are the Royals, NL the Metropolitans. We throw in the Pirates, kind of like a tie-breaker.Just too much material to ignore.
    Minimum three posts a day about the Universe, either positive or left-handed negative, extra points for Jeter or ARod.
    Then, to spice things up, a liberal layer of semi-modern-popculture, references to movies of any genre (sci-fi usually prefered), music, and hot pastrami sandwiches, unless Old Gator goes all “horsemeat and velveeta on us.
    That about covers it, hope Kyle has a great season.

  10. ecp - Mar 5, 2010 at 12:29 PM

    Actually, Craig, if you read the article instead of just picking out the final paragraph and using it to apply another Dayton Moore slam, you will see that he does have a plan: To build the farm system and expand international presence and allow those youngsters to grow. And he’s done that. It’s just at the major league level that his decisions have sucked. Now, when the kids are actually ready to play (they aren’t yet) if his decisions still continue to suck, THEN we can say his plan all along was based on hope and prayer.

  11. J. McCann - Mar 5, 2010 at 12:37 PM

    I still say “the process” is to sign players who look like they can play, but will pile up losses for the team. Then they get awesome draft picks, and then they actually sign useful players when ready to contend. (I admit it is a stretch thinking they know who the useful players are.) There farm system is now ranked as one of the better ones.

  12. Andy - Mar 5, 2010 at 2:29 PM

    Brian, so the whole comment is a fail? Ha! You live in an awfully black and white world, my friend. Nice to meet you.
    OldGator, sorry for the confusion. That’s completely my bad. (Craig, you too.)
    Len, thanks for the information. I’m not a resident of this message board, so I don’t know the house rules. But I appreciate the heads up. That’s very hospitable of you. Allow me to return the favor. Twitter is a website that allows its members to post updates of 140-characters or fewer to allow their “followers” (that’s another fancy term I’ll explain in a minute) to stay up to date on the progress of their day. News agencies, sports sites, and regular people take advantage of this service. “Followers” are people who are interested in what that person/agency/site posts. For more information, see
    I won’t defend the Kyle Farnsworth comment. I loved it when he was blowing games for your beloved Yanks, and I hated it when my Royals signed him. He won’t start. He better not. Nice meeting you, too, Len.
    Anyway, thanks for showing me around, guys. I promise to not mess things up next time.

  13. Old Gator - Mar 5, 2010 at 5:15 PM

    I don’t mind being confused with Craig, Andy. And no offense is taken. When you’ve taught as long and flunked as many anancephalic athletes as I have, hostility is perceived as a form of flattery.
    That said, I find Twitter a complete waste of time. “Tweet” sounds too silly for me to take seriously. It’d be nice if they had a way to embed signing tweets for the hearing impaired; they could call them mutes.
    Tanya, the beautiful honey blonde at the far left on Sharon Mann’s morning workout show on FIT TV (just before the six devastatingly beautiful Namaste Yoga girls come on to lead me through my fantasy workout in the morning), has a Tweety Bird tattoo behind her right shoulder. Now that Tweety I can take seriously.

  14. Ron - Mar 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM

    For someone who doesn’t even live in the city, why do you keep beating the dead horse that the Royals need a new stadium? They don’t, and just because the fans of the ‘Feesh’ might have been dumb enough to pay out several hundred million dollars of thier own money doesn’t mean people from Kansas City are.
    There is nothing wrong with Kaufmann Stadium, and it remains one of the best places to watch a baseball game that exists. Plus, the players love playing there.
    If you were familiar with Kansas City at all, which you obviously aren’t, then you would know that there where there is space downtown, the infrastructure doesn’t exist. Where there the infrastructure does exist for a new stadium, it is too far away from where it would ever be built. Imagine the MArlins playing in Key West?
    Kansas City doesn’t have a good owner, general manager, or manager. But what they do have is a good fan base who supports their team, a great stadium to play in, the brains not to squander their money for Bud unnecessarily, and much more intelligence than the fans in other cities who have mortgaged their futures for a building that could have been paid for out of private funds.
    I don’t know why you would possibly think a new stadium would make any difference in Kansas City? You don’t know the demographics, the population, or the culture of the fans who come. Why don’t you leave our team to us, and worry about yours.
    You actually made some intelligent comments in regards to Dayton Moore. You should have stopped while you were ahead.

  15. Ron - Mar 5, 2010 at 5:31 PM

    4 years in, there should be some prospects that he’s developed ready to contribute at the major league level.
    So far, the only ones to come through the farm system and do anything have been Allard Baird leftovers.
    There is no process, just a slick-talking salesman who’s fooled the world into believing he could do the job.
    Remember, there’s a reason he didn’t get the job in Atlanta or Boston. This is it.

  16. YankeesfanLen - Mar 5, 2010 at 5:31 PM

    Unlike a lot of sniping, one-upmanship posts many blogs get, this one is rather tame and friendly. To prove my technological acumen is at least somewhere in the decade, I have to google half of what Old Gator says.
    And I do have a great lasagna recipe I’m willing to share if you’d like to get in the kitchen.
    Craig Calcaterra’s HardballTalk- Always open, snark welcome!

  17. Ron - Mar 5, 2010 at 5:34 PM

    Andy, I can tell you from covnersations that I’ve had with Craig that he doesn’t hate the Royals. He was a Braves fan in the 80’s and saw first hand then what we’re going through now.
    I would have to think Craig would say the same thing about the incompetence of any general manager in the majors (go back and check and see how he feels about Brian Sabean) and he calls them out (farily) for not getting the job done.

  18. Patrick Fuchs - Mar 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM

    I think the results will occur sooner than 4 years. Dayton Moore is commited to the Royals, and the Royals winning big. Also a large cog in this process is Trey Hillman and I don’t live in the city or anywhere near the Marlins.

  19. Old Gator - Mar 6, 2010 at 12:55 AM

    Ackcherley, I have very old and affectionate ties to Kansas City (and to Lawrence, but another story altogether) which have far more to do with its jazz tradition (I’m a jazz historian among other things) and with great steaks than its baseball tradition, so whereas I may not live there I’ve spent plenty of time there doing research and just hangin’ out listening to great music – and in Sedalia, logically enough, where I try to get to the annual Scott Joplin fete every couple of years for a general spiritual revitalization. These Vodoun, Macumba and Santeria loas down here in Macondo can really wear you out – bleating goats keeping you up all night and such.
    We’ve been over this territory before and if you’d’ve paid attention you might have noticed that I’m not even remotely sympathetic to the politicians and backroom deals that yielded our own new playpen for the parasitic megarich. The voters had nothing to do with it; the issue never came to a vote because polls indicated over and over that we’d crush any such giveaways by a huge margin. Ergo, our county and city commishes found a couple of back door rules for the use of tourist tax funds, and that’s where the municipal contribution to Macondo’s latest white brontosaurus (“elephant” would be too much of an understatement) came from. One public opinion poll, taken shortly after Scrooge McLoria and the Chihuahua began wasting the time of the San Antonio municipal authorities as if they planned to move the team there, essentially concluded “have a nice time in Texas, assholes, and don’t forget to lock the parking lot gates at Joeprodol (that’s as many names as it had had at that point) when you leave.” San Antonio baseball fans were bitter but, believe me, they got off easy. This new stadium will attract the curious for a year or two and then it’ll be even emptier than Joeprodolsharklife Stadium – you know, as George Hamilton memorably noted in Love at First Bite, as empty as Bucharest on a Monday night, because it’s been moved much too far south for the half-interested northern Broward and Palm Beach county fans to bother with the long, traffic-choked drive. And there are other local factors that’ll make it a wasteland as well, but I’ll parcel those out over the course of the sorry evolution of this horrifically misconceived stadium project. We got a couple of years to go yet.
    Now the main event: what I said above was that KC area fans were lucky that Dayton Moore didn’t have the imagination to think up a need for a new stadium – a put-down of Moore, not an insistence that in fact you need one out there. It was also a satire of the way cheapskate owners periodically choke their teams and whine that they can’t make money without a new stadium, implicitly threatening to go somewhere that will build them one, and of what I think is the appalling spinelessness of municipal authorities all over this increasingly oligarchic republic of ours to coddle the overprivileged. That’s the same as the last time I mentioned it, when you missed the point the first time. You’re nothing if not consistent in your inability to pick up on irony, not to mention gratuitously petulant about it.

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  21. Joey B - Mar 8, 2010 at 1:13 PM

    “Now the main event: what I said above was that KC area fans were lucky that Dayton Moore didn’t have the imagination to think up a need for a new stadium – a put-down of Moore, not an insistence that in fact you need one out there. It was also a satire of the way cheapskate owners periodically choke their teams and whine that they can’t make money without a new stadium,”
    1-I don’t get the satire. I don’t think it is the GM’s job to get a new stadium.
    2-He’s not quite a cheapskate owner. He spent $75M last year in salaries, in an area that perhaps is the smallest MMA in MLB.

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