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What they're saying about the Joe Mauer deal

Mar 22, 2010, 7:57 AM EDT

Mauer big.jpgAs the foremost Twins dude on the Internets I defer to Aaron’s take on the Mauer deal. But others have weighed in too. Let’s take a look-see:

  • J.C. Bradbury: “I worry that the Twins may have stretched a bit here with this long-term
    commitment . . . But the Twins are one of the best-managed organizations in baseball, so I
    think they deserve the benefit of the doubt.”
  • Matthew Carruth, FanGraphs: “In the short term, this deal is fair to both sides. Where it might get
    dicey is down the line when Mauer reaches his mid-30s. I don’t think him
    staying at catcher is needed for this to work out though. Mauer’s bat
    is good enough to stand a move to first base and he would benefit from a
    likely increase in playing time. My concern is simply that for being on
    the hook for eight years and giving him a full no trade clause, I feel
    the Twins should have gotten a bit more of a discount.”
  • SethSpeaks: “Yes, this deal
    is more than just about baseball, but from a purely baseball aspect,
    it isn’t
    a great deal.”
  • Twinkie Town: “I can’t tell you how ecstatic I am about this.  Right now, this looks
    like a fantastic deal for both sides.  It’s a very fair deal,
    particularly when you expect baseball’s financial market to rebound in
    coming seasons.  As long as Joe stays healthy, that is.”
  • Only Baseball Matters: “That’s how you handle a once-in-a-generation talent. Teams that are
    run by real general managers, and owned by real men who know what the
    hell they are doing, understand this.”
  • TYU: “Yankee fans who were planning on acquiring him to replace Jorge Posada
    will have to look elsewhere.”
  • Mark Steyn: “more bureaucracy, massive IRS expansion, explosive debt, the end of the
    Pax Americana, and global Armageddon.”

That last one was about health care reform, not Mauer specifically. I include it, though, because what with the global Armageddon and all, it’s not like the Twins will really have to worry about the back end of the Mauer contract. Total win-win for Minnesota, really.

  1. Ron - Mar 22, 2010 at 8:56 AM

    Armegeddon can not come until the Royals face the Pirates in the World Series.
    I think we’re safe.

  2. Evan - Mar 22, 2010 at 10:10 AM

    You are correct about health care. What a joke.

  3. Dan - Mar 22, 2010 at 10:11 AM

    As a Twins fan, I think it’s funny how people are expecting the Yankees to be heart-broken over ‘losing’ Joe Mauer. The Yanks have the BEST hitting catching prospect in the game knocking on the door. I really don’t think they are going to be too distraught.

  4. Craig Calcaterra - Mar 22, 2010 at 10:18 AM

    Evan — I’m actually pro HCR. It isn’t perfect and we’ll certainly see some unintended consequences, but I support it, generally speaking. Those saying that it’s either (a) the end of the world; or (b) the dawning of a glorious new age are both engaging in silly political hyperbole.

  5. Church of the Perpetually Outraged - Mar 22, 2010 at 11:05 AM

    But that’s impossible! According to the uninformed masses, the Yanks do nothing but buy free-agents and never develop any talent via the farm system
    captcha: eggplant committee

  6. Grant - Mar 22, 2010 at 11:11 AM

    The Yankees brass probably aren’t worried, but all those talk radio nincompoops who had already been salivating over him will certainly be disappointed.

  7. Andy L - Mar 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM

    Wow, Craig. You’re on your own!

  8. Bill@TDS - Mar 22, 2010 at 11:24 AM

    I had Rob’s comment in mind when I wrote this (basically) at the bottom of my post from this morning: you can’t really call it “regret.” you don’t “regret” paying taxes or obeying a subpoena. The point being that maybe they’re paying too much, maybe the mid-thirties Mauer is a burden on the payroll, but it was something they absolutely had to do. Unless he immediately suffers a career-ending (or Jason Kendall-izing) injury, the contract can’t possibly be worse than not signing the contract would have been.
    union amuse!

  9. YANKEES1996 - Mar 22, 2010 at 12:29 PM

    The Twins signed the guy and let the crying commence, its not a great deal, as long as Joe stays healthy. Man you guys need to make up your damn minds. Everyone was envisioning the Yankees swooping in to sign another major talent, the bad mouthing of the Yankees was already in full attack mode because everyone thought for sure he was going to NY. I say good job to the Twins they came through for their LOYAL fans and kept their MVP player. Joe Mauer is the type of player you should go to great lengths for and the Twins did that. If he had reached free agency I would have been disappointed if the Yanks had not made a serious run at him but I think it is better all round that he is staying where the fans love him and their team.

  10. APBA Guy - Mar 22, 2010 at 12:45 PM

    This deal is all about risk and projection. As the Twins are a very, very well run franchise (A’s owners: take notes) their assessment of risk is that Mauer will have greater than $23M/year value early in the deal, hold that value in his early 30’s, and may marginally dip in value at the end of the deal. They hope that his career path is more like Jeter, who has held value into his late 30’s. Their risk is that, as a catcher, he develops serious physical problems a la Eric Chavez.
    But value in Mauer’s case is more than a function of player performance. It’s also name recognition and what that does to get the new park off to a strong start. A $ 15M+/year revenue bump pays for Mauer. The Twins are actually expecting more than that.
    So this contract is also about investment protection.
    In that sense, if he holds his player value for 4 years, it’s a good deal for the Twins. Anything after that is icing.

  11. Church of the Perpetually Outraged - Mar 22, 2010 at 1:04 PM

    It’s the money and length of the deal that people, like Neyer, are questioning. Is Mauer currently worth a $23M AAV contract? Yes, in 6-7 years from now, who knows? If 4 years down the road, Mauer has to move from Catcher to 1b/DH, he loses some of his value [WAR] due to positional adjustment.

  12. YANKEES1996 - Mar 22, 2010 at 1:59 PM

    These long term deals are always going to be subject to this type of discussion. Do you really think A-Rod is going to be the Yankees everyday third baseman at the end of his contract? The Yankees are going to go through this in the off season with Jeter and Rivera. These teams that have these talented players have to weigh all the options and then make their best educated guess, but if they want to be competitive they need to sign their best players when it is time. If they don’t sign their better players then all they are is a farm team for the Yanks, Red Sox and other bigger market teams or teams who have money to spend, but if your not going to try and sign your better players don’t whine about not being competitive.

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