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Quote of the Day: Pete Rose on steroids

Apr 8, 2010, 5:15 PM EDT

Now, to answer your question about steroids, wouldn’t you like to ask
Roger Maris how he feels about steroids? Or Babe Ruth how he feels about
steroids? Or Hank Aaron, you could probably ask how he feels about
steroids. Because those guys all lost records because of people who
supposedly took steroids. So that’s a different deal right there. But I
didn’t alter any statistics of baseball.

 — Pete Rose, casting himself as morally and ethically superior to steroids users in a radio interview yesterday.  I searched the entire transcript, however, and could not find any reference to the fact that Paul Janzen, the man who, according
to the Dowd Report
, was Rose’s primary bet-placer was also a steroids dealer. Or that one of his best friends during the bad old days, minor leaguer Tommy Gioiosa, was a heavy steroids user who shot up in front of Pete and to whom Pete constantly asked questions about steroids and PEDs, contemplating using them to extend his already lengthy career.

But yes, clearly, Pete Rose was a man above all of that and should be judged less harshly.

  1. YankeesfanLen - Apr 8, 2010 at 5:52 PM

    Most of us have met someone like him in the outside world. Mr. Gung-Ho, leave it all out there on the field, “this place will fall apart without me”.
    Then comes “I make my own rules, if I do it it’s okay”
    Then “Don’t do as I do, do as I say”
    If he just played baseball to the best of his superior abilities, he would have not exposed his feet of clay.

  2. Tom - Apr 8, 2010 at 6:06 PM

    Poor Pete, the whole world is out to get him.

  3. bob - Apr 8, 2010 at 6:18 PM

    Pete Rose was Mr.Greeny in the day.

  4. RichardInDallas - Apr 8, 2010 at 6:32 PM

    Craig, is that a softball in your mouth or are you trying to use your tounge to drill a hole through the side of your face?

  5. Wells - Apr 8, 2010 at 6:38 PM

    That was a really funny comment, but I have absolutely no idea what you meant by it.

  6. Big Harold - Apr 8, 2010 at 6:59 PM

    Pete Rose is one of my favorite ballplayers of all time. I think his accomplishments on the field as a player warrant him being in the HOF. That, however, doesn’t nor should it preclude his banishment from baseball. As was suggested in a different post there should be some way that he be allowed in the HOF but other than that he shouldn’t be in baseball. He broke the one cardinal rule of baseball that was clear to ALL who played.
    In the end Rose has nobody to blame for his predicament other than himself. Initially he denied and lied about his actions and even the extent of his involvement. Add to that he has shown little remorse or contrition since and frankly it’s hard to feel sorry for him. Perhaps the very same drive and self confidence that made him the player that he was will not permit him to really see and fully understand just how egregious his actions were to baseball and ultimately to himself. Maybe a lifetime of being a cocky self centered jock precludes him from understanding the magnitude of his transgressions. Regardless, he’s where he’s at because of his own actions.
    In the end the true tragedy in this is that Rose who should have been held in lofty esteem not merely for his accomplishment but because he was an average guy who achieved so much. Clearly he wasn’t very big, powerful or fast. In terms of his physical attributes he was an every man and yet he willed himself to greatness. He worked harder and got more from himself than most could dream of. Then, the very same drive and determination, ego, that made him great allowed him to believe that the rules either didn’t apply to him or that he could break them and get away with it. It is profoundly sad on the order of classical Greek tragedy. Rose should have been an icon to every thing that’s great about baseball, that an average guy with the desire and willingness to work can be great. Instead he is the festering injury that will not heal. And the culprit in all this is Pete Rose, one of the best ever to swing a stick at a ball or slide head first into a base and who is now, because of his own arrogance, not allowed in baseball.

  7. Simon DelMonte - Apr 8, 2010 at 7:46 PM

    At this point, it seems that the biggest obstacle preventing Pete Rose from ever getting back into the game, or into the HOF, is Pete Rose. I have to wonder what would have happened if he tried the route McGwire did. Even a little suspect humility and contrition might have gone a long way for someone whose career still isn’t totally tainted.

  8. Joey B - Apr 8, 2010 at 7:54 PM

    The headline is really misleading. It sounds like Rose is on steroids, not ‘let’s hear Rose’s opinion of steroids. IRT to the specific comments, it’s nothing new. Everyone says the same thing. The records are sacred, and they were stolen.

  9. David - Apr 8, 2010 at 8:08 PM

    Anyone ever ask Willie, Hank etc.. if they took speed, greenies, or whatever they were called before or during a game so their energy levels could maintained? Save me the “above it all” crap, if roids were prevelent back than, the stars of those days would have taken them also. They weren’t, so they took the next best thing!!

  10. M Mastandrea - Apr 8, 2010 at 8:24 PM

    When is enough enough? Pete has paid dearly for him mistakes, but no matter he is one of the all-time greats in the game….I am 53 years old, played college baseball, and was fortunate to see Willy, Mickey, and Hank all play….Pete Rose makes anyone and everybody’s All Century team, and the commissioner of baseball needs to stand up and say “enough is enough”, this man has paid the price. I suggest baseball create a suspended category, that a player is eligible to voting to the HOF…. Then leave it to the BBWA to decide if he is worthy!!!!! While they are at it, how about forgiving Shoeless Joe, and and putting him where history has already determined!
    We have had HOF’s in many sports who have had questionable behavior, and yet they remain, or are elected.
    Any true baseball fan should stand up to this travesty….. PETE’S suspension should be lifted or revised…..Cooperstown is his rightful place!!!!!

  11. bunbun - Apr 8, 2010 at 9:00 PM

    what pete rose is, is a cheat, liar and criminal.If you fill one bottle with skunk piss and lable it steroids and fill another bottle with skunk piss and lable it pete rose, you then have the full substance of the situation.Pete Rose is skunk piss. All steroid users are skunk piss. Someone with pete roses numbers deserves to be in the HOF. Pete Rose does not. Pete Rose has earned the position he finds himself in.

  12. willmose - Apr 8, 2010 at 9:41 PM

    I agree that Pete should be in the HOF but only after he dies. Pete agreed to be banned for life from baseball. When Pete is dead, remove him from the banned list and admit him.

  13. jwb - Apr 8, 2010 at 10:01 PM

    “Pete agreed to be banned for life”
    A common misconception. Pete Rose agreed to a permanent ban.

  14. Trevor - Apr 8, 2010 at 10:25 PM

    What record did Babe Ruth lose because of steroids? The coveted AB/HR crown?

  15. Jake - Apr 8, 2010 at 11:14 PM

    How is a “permanent ban” different from a “ban for life”?
    Permanent means forever. Never-ending. Until the end of time.
    That’s what the word means, and that’s what he agreed to.

  16. retrobob - Apr 9, 2010 at 12:33 AM

    I agree completely with M Mastandrea. Somewhere along the line, baseball has to get over itself. What Rose did never altered the game. The numbers he put up may well never be achieved again. The current Commissioner of Baseball should grow some gonads and get it done. It is ridiculous that Rose is not recognized for his achievements. He has paid the price, far more than those who altered the game with their steroids and other drugs. Those are the ones who should have their records banned from the HOF. Rose was recognized as one of the greatest players of the century. Why not give him the respect for what he did for the game of baseball?

  17. Quixoteswhore - Apr 9, 2010 at 12:49 AM

    I once read that the only book Pete Rose ever read was his autobiography.

  18. Jonny5 - Apr 9, 2010 at 12:15 PM

    I’m getting ready to buy a Phillies throwback Rose Jersey. Ta hell with the haters. Rose didn’t get busted cheating. He was busted gambling in every way you can get “busted” by gambling. I kinda feel for the guy.

  19. Bear - Apr 9, 2010 at 2:39 PM

    “What record did Babe Ruth lose because of steroids? The coveted AB/HR crown?”
    You’re taking Pete’s comments too literally. He’s using Ruth’s name b/c it’s so well know. Ruth didn’t have the single season or career records anymore, but he was bumped to 3rd place or lower b/c of players who inflated thier HR totals with the help of steroids.

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