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Quote of the Day: Gregg Doyel

Apr 29, 2010, 11:28 AM EST

The Phillies aren’t stupid. People are. People like Keith Law of ESPN.com, and anyone out
there who thinks like Law  when Law wrote that “this is one of
the worst extensions of its kind.”

The always civil Gregg Doyel, taking issue with those who take issue with the Ryan Howard extension.

This is the same Gregg Doyel who once wrote that Alex Rodriguez “stole” his $25 million/year contract from the Texas Rangers and became “universally despised” for his “shocking greed.” In the same piece he accused the Rangers of “sticking it to Joe Fan” by offering such a contract and called Scott Boras unethical for “getting unwitting teams to bid against
themselves,” which is essentially what Howard did with the Phillies.

(thanks to Neate Sager for the heads up)

  1. MJ - Apr 29, 2010 at 11:47 AM

    Wow holy crap dude you need to get over this deal. Congrats it took you 4 days to finally find someone who had contradicting stances on the A-Rod and Howard deal, will you stop talking about it now.
    Also perhaps the reason A-Rod became universally despised is because he left his original team and went to an average at best team which makes it look like it’s about the $ and not winning, hence “shocking greed”. Not to mention that deal was long ago, when $25 mil a year seemed insane, where as nowadays it’s going to start being the norm for many star players.
    In any event, now that you’ve finally found your contradiction can you shut up about this deal.

  2. Eric - Apr 29, 2010 at 11:57 AM

    Sigh… days like this I miss Fire Joe Morgan

  3. BC - Apr 29, 2010 at 12:01 PM

    It is an insanely bad extension, but Doyel always has been and always will be a chipwich. Guy can’t even spell his last name right.

  4. Ryan - Apr 29, 2010 at 12:03 PM

    Read Doyel’s earlier article first, then his latest one about Howard. Other that his pretentious tone and calling everyone with a better job than himself an ‘idiot’, it’s like they were written by different people. Pretty hilarious.

  5. Redsauce - Apr 29, 2010 at 12:03 PM

    There needs to be a FireJoeMorgan for posts like #1.

  6. Joe - Apr 29, 2010 at 12:13 PM

    This is like a textbook for how to use logical fallacies.
    “Who is Keith Law? He’s a former MLB executive with the Toronto Blue Jays, which is like being a former NBA executive with the Los Angeles Clippers or a former NFL executive with the Cleveland Browns”
    Who is Greg Doyel? He’s never been a MLB executive, which is like never being a former NBA executive or a former NFL executive.

  7. Church of the Perpetually Outraged - Apr 29, 2010 at 12:16 PM

    Sigh… days like this I miss Fire Joe Morgan

    Klaw chat today at 1pm on ESPN.com, I’m sure someone will bring it up and keith will be nothing but roses to the guy :)

  8. Jonny5 - Apr 29, 2010 at 12:23 PM

    Seriously though, I’ve never seen so many people who can travel in time to see if the deal was good or bad……. No one will know for a long time if it was a stupid or good move. Who knows maybe they’ll trade the guy to the Bosox for pitching prospects that all turn out to be Roy Halladays, Tim Lincecums, and Santana’s. Maybe he’ll hit more home runs than anyone ever has, or maybe he’ll take a crap tomorrow and never produce again? Only time will tell.

  9. (Not That) Tom - Apr 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM

    “The Phillies aren’t stupid. People are.”
    Truer words have never been spoken.

  10. thatGuy - Apr 29, 2010 at 1:09 PM

    My favorite part is when he dismisses the comparisons to Mo Vaugn and his ilk and compares him to Konerko and Posada…. Apparently he doesn’t realize the comparisions to Vaugn and others is because of body type and other factors, not simply age. Konerko and Posada have no where near Howards body type.

  11. Kid Charlemagne - Apr 29, 2010 at 2:17 PM

    In other news, apparently Phillies aren’t people.

  12. gumbercules - Apr 29, 2010 at 2:27 PM

    Doyel’s article is the worst of its kind.

  13. Lee Keeler - Apr 29, 2010 at 3:13 PM

    I agree with the article, maybe not the tone, but you have to factor in what Howard means to that lineup, to the pitches Utley and Werth see. Also, Howard has gotten into better shape each of the last two years and worked on his defense quite a bit.
    The guy cares about his game and the Phillies also for better or worse know what he is making for quite a few years when they formulate their budget.
    Do I think Howard will be great at 38? Probably not, but I will take him for the next 5-6 years in the middle of the Phillies lineup.

  14. Chris W - Apr 29, 2010 at 5:59 PM

    “having Howard hit behind them” has almost nothing to do with Utley and Werth’s performance. This has been well documented.
    Look: Let’s say that for some reason Howard is the only reason that Utley and Werth are seeing anything in the strike zone. Remove Howard and they walk all the time.
    Guess what: that is an awesome outcome. It’s no worse than them being asked to put the ball in play at a 30%-35% rate even if they do hit for excellent power.
    It’s nice that the Phillies want to reward a guy who is all accounts an excellent human being and tireless worker, and it’s nice for Phillies fans–to some extent–that a favorite player of theirs won’t be going to NY or BOS any time soon, but if this deal is based on anything like “He helps protect Utley!” or “He drives in tons of runs”…well…then I guess that just confirms what everyone thought about this deal

  15. Lee Keeler - Apr 30, 2010 at 1:50 PM

    Dude, if you don’t understand how having Ryan Howard hitting in front of you or behind you can help you see better pitches then no real point in carrying on this conversation.
    And saying that they would walk all the time and how that is a good thing, instead of driving in runs and such. I don’t know, it’s the internet and any yahoo (including myself) has an opinion, but that is beyond assinine.

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