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Great Moments in overreacting: Johan Santana edition

May 3, 2010, 1:15 PM EDT

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If this is what Santana is now, and who he is now, then the Mets may
well be staring into the abyss. For real. For good.

The New York Post’s Mike Vaccaro, reminding us once again that the trait which most clearly defines New York baseball fans is not their knowledge or their passion, but their capacity for ridiculous overreaction.

It’s one game. One awful game, sure, but one game.  Before last night’s game Santana had a 2.08 ERA in 33 innings and a healthy strikeout rate. One inning does not change that unless an injury is involved, of which there is no evidence in Santana’s case whatsoever. Randy Johnson once gave up 11 runs in 2.1 innings. No one was talking about staring into the abyss, for real, for good when that happened.

If Santana does it again next time out, fine, let’s start worrying. In the meantime, everyone should just chill out.

  1. Moses Green - May 3, 2010 at 1:25 PM

    Mets fans should be more concerned with Jerry Manuel’s “Weekend at Bernie’s” act, leaving him in after he was too cooked to deal with that fearsome lefty slugger, Jamie Moyer.

  2. enough already - May 3, 2010 at 1:33 PM

    OMG! That is absolutely ridiculous. But can we just acknowledge that it was a member of the press and not a fan who said it. I know that we are not always the most rational bunch, but can we at least lay a little bit of blame at the feet of the rabble-rousing media? Thank you.

  3. Jonny5 - May 3, 2010 at 1:35 PM

    Jamie moyer had the official Johan Santana MLB Voodoo doll and was dumping a can of stewed tomatoes on it while uttering something and gyrating as if in a trance, yup I seen it. But anyway, the guy has one bad outing and the “news” outlets scream their doom and gloom because it may sell 50 more papers.. What else is new?

  4. BC - May 3, 2010 at 1:42 PM

    Jeez, Vaccaro makes ME look like an optimist…

  5. DSFC - May 3, 2010 at 1:50 PM

    SOME NY fans, Craig – some. It’s just that those nutcases tend to be the noisiest.

  6. Joey B - May 3, 2010 at 1:51 PM

    “reminding us once again that the trait which most clearly defines New York baseball fans is not their knowledge or their passion, but their capacity for ridiculous overreaction.”
    Sure, and according to fans on the RS websites, both Beckett and Lester are finished. This is just another ‘sun comes up’ headline. People need to be able to differentiate between real BB fans and casual BB fans, between real discussion and people blowing off some steam. I doubt Mets’ fans are much different that any other fans.

  7. Simon DelMonte - May 3, 2010 at 2:17 PM

    There is room for a little concern here that Johann either can’t pitch against the Phillies or can’t pitch in CBP. Either could pose a problem in the long run, but neither is exactly a rare malady.
    But yeah, one bad night does not a season make. It would be like saying that just because a columnist for a New York paper went off half-cokced once, he will always do that. Better to wait and see and back up your assumption with facts.

  8. Old Gator - May 3, 2010 at 2:23 PM

    Craig, it’s the goddamned Post, for Buddha’s sake. What’d you expect, understatement?
    reCaptcha: human enlightenment. How utterly inappropriate for a comment on the New York Post.

  9. Wobatus - May 3, 2010 at 5:06 PM

    Yes, typical overreaction. But let’s also not overreact to how good his first 33 innings of this year were. His fastball velocity is below 90 mph on average now and has been trending down for 5 years. His k rate has trended down likewise. And his xFIPs have also trended down in a slow but steady fashion. He is still a very good pitcher, but he isn’t what he once was. No shame in that.
    He was injured last year, and his k rate was indeed better at the beginning of this year. It will be interesting to see how he bounces back.
    And it may be the Phillies have picked up a tip. Santana has given up 2 or more homers 4 times since mid June of last year. Three times it was the Phils. One of those included another 4 homer game, but that was in “cavernous” Citifield. of course, the Phils are loaded with sluggers. Victorino isn’t one of them.
    And maybe Johan was flashing back to King Felix’s grandslam against him 2 years ago when he walked Moyer. On some borderline pitches.

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