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The Giants hit into a lot of double plays

May 4, 2010, 5:30 PM EST

I’m not sure what’s the most surprising thing about this article:

1. That the Giants are on pace to hit into 209 double plays, which would beat the current record by a country mile;

2. That the Giants’ offense has actually produced enough base runners to hit into that many double plays; or

3. That the current record — 174 — was set by a team that was actually pretty good: the 1990 Red Sox.

What does not surprise me is that Pablo Sandoval leads the team with eight Gidps. Dude ain’t fast.

  1. albert - May 4, 2010 at 6:38 PM

    Another year of no hit ,good pitching , You can’t teach hitting , if you could , everyone would be a 300 hitter , so , the S.F. fans remain in fantasy land with beautiful stadium and a glass of wine . Believe all the S.F. p .r. tells you , you deserve it .

  2. sj - May 4, 2010 at 7:38 PM

    Kung Fu Panda is just one of too many slow-footed Giants. With Molina catching and Uribe somewhere on the infield the team is hardly going to set any speed records. And since the standard lineup has them hitting as a group with Huff – not exactly light of foot either – in the middle, it should be no surprise that opposing teams get lots of two-fers. The Giants have a grand total of 9 stolen bases; only Philly and the hapless Os have fewer. But, you say, Panda is second on the team in the steals – with 2.

  3. Roger Moore - May 4, 2010 at 7:42 PM

    It shouldn’t be a surprise that the team with the GIDP record was pretty good. Grounding into a double play normally requires that you have a runner on first base, and teams that put a lot of runners on first base have a tendency to score a lot of runs. Think of them as a potentially great team that was kept from greatness by the GIDP, and it makes more sense.

  4. jwb - May 4, 2010 at 9:26 PM

    If you were going to design a high GDP team, you would design something like the 1990 Red Sox. Lots of high OBP guys (first in OBP), not many strike outs (fourth), and no team speed (last in SB with a 50% success rate). These Giants also get on base pretty well (5th), don’t strike out much (1st), and are slow (14th in SB, 61%).

  5. MarkH - May 4, 2010 at 9:54 PM

    This reminds me of some of those bizarre, backhanded defenses of Jim Rice I remember from back in the day:
    “Wow, Rice just set the season record for GIDP!”
    “That totally means the Red Sox are a good team, since they get so many guys on base.”
    “???”

  6. jwb - May 4, 2010 at 11:23 PM

    “This reminds me of some of those bizarre, backhanded defenses of Jim Rice”
    Yes, it does. What I was thinking was that any metric which does not take GDPs into account (like OPS+) is going to overstate the value of Jim Rice, Pablo Sandoval, or Tony Pena (the GDP leader of the 1990 BoSox). This hasn’t been a problem for Sandoval in the past (16 GDP in 800 PA).
    “mollified traditions”

  7. Kirk - May 5, 2010 at 1:20 AM

    Panda ain’t thaaaat slow. He steals a base from time to time and does hit triples. He’s actually pretty quick for a big guy.

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