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Jerry Manuel is on the firing line too

May 17, 2010, 9:39 AM EDT

Jerry Manuel waving.jpgIt’s open season on managers this morning. First Lou Piniella, now Jerry Manuel, whose head the New York Post’s Mike Vaccaro calls for in today’s column:

He is a good and decent man, but increasingly his in-game decisions
and demeanor have been maddening, his uber-reliance on small-ball, his
puzzling lineup decisions. He was unhappy with that eighth-inning home
run that Fernando Nieve surrendered to Coghlan? How much do you suppose
his almost daily reliance on Nieve has helped speed along Nieve’s
regression from dependable to deplorable?

Omar Minaya will make the trip to Atlanta, which might mean he’s
following Brian Cashman’s itinerary from last year, when a surprise
visit to Turner Field served as an unlikely turning point in the Yankee
season. Or it could be his own blueprint from 2008, when he took an
unexpected flight to Anaheim to personally hand Willie Randolph his vest
with the fish inside.

For the sake of this season, it would be wise if he arrived with a
new manager riding shotgun.

I have less of a problem with this than I do with the calls for Piniella’s ouster.  Manuel has been a tactical disaster this year, most notably with the bullpen, which he appears to have already burnt out.  Though I’m an agnostic when it comes to batting order optimization, Manuel’s Jose-Reyes-bats-third experiment was a failure as well, and given that Reyes himself was opposed to it to begin with, you have to figure that he isn’t a happy camper right now. Oh, and Manuel pinch hit with Jeff Francoeur yesterday for cryin’ out loud, and that should be a firing offense in and of itself.

But even if this is less problematic than the calls for Lou Piniella’s job, I question whether replacing Jerry Manuel would make a big difference for the Mets’ season. To the extent they’re seen as a disappointment right now, that’s because the eight-game winning streak last month made us think they are something more than we thought they were going to be in the offseason. What we’re seeing right now is the Mets finding their true level, not failing to meet some rational expectation. Replace Manuel with Bobby Valentine or Bob Melvin or Wally Backman and you’re still looking at a 75 win team.

But the bullpen management bothers me a great deal, and as long as you’re going to lose a lot anyway, you may as well lose with someone who isn’t going to fry all your arms before the weather gets warm.

  1. Alex - May 17, 2010 at 10:43 AM

    Don’t get me wrong, I am totally in favor of getting rid of Manuel (Bobby V!!!), but I don’t think you can do much other than destroy the bullpen with the rotation they have. Your ace is really a 7 inning pitcher (Santana has gone more than 7 IP this year only once, and that was 7.2), then you have Pelfrey, who has been better than expected), Maine (5 IP if you’re luck), Ollie (3 IP) and Niese (6 IP at best). Now, with Ollie and Niese out, it’s even worse.

  2. BC - May 17, 2010 at 10:56 AM

    Here’s hoping that the Mets’ plane comes back from Atlanta without Manuel or Minaya on it.

  3. Xpensive Wino - May 17, 2010 at 11:07 AM

    Not a Manuel fan by any stretch, but who’s going to win with the players Minaya has brought in? Manuel is trying to make chicken salad out of rancid chicken sh**. That team is a mess and nothing will get better until Minaya is fired and a competent GM is brought in to assemble a decent, cohesive team.

  4. Joey B - May 17, 2010 at 11:19 AM

    “Oh, and Manuel pinch hit with Jeff Francoeur yesterday for cryin’ out loud, and that should be a firing offense in and of itself.”
    Yup, it’s bad over there.
    Over his last 96 ABs, Francouer is hitting .125 with one HR and a 23/3 K/W ratio. A .189 OPS over his last 36 ABs. That’s right, OPS, not average. 36 ABs, 3 singles, no XBHs, and no walks.
    But it’s also not like Minaya left him with a lot of options. It’s not a good team. But I don’t know where he gets his lineups. Reyes is a very good lead-off hitter, but they were batting him 3rd because he has 15-HR power, ignoring the 60 SB potential? Chris Carter, career minor leaguer, batting cleanup, reminescent of Jacobs, DFA’d by KC, batting cleanup earlier? Because they happen to be lefties?
    They need to sweep out everyone, but then Wilpon s/h known that prior to the start of the season.

  5. Jimmy Marlins Fan - May 17, 2010 at 2:14 PM

    well in fairness to manuel…the marlins brought in dan meyer as a relief pitcher (who has an ERA that could drive 16+)…i mean if francouer was ever going to get a hit against someone it should have been meyer and then there is the fact minaya hasnt/isnt/wont cut or trade francouer so you gotta use him sometimes dont you?

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