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Hanley Ramirez is digging himself a deeper hole

May 18, 2010, 11:12 AM EDT

Hanley Ramirez loafing.jpgUPDATE: Here’s a transcript of Ramirez’s whole session with the media and additional comments from “clubhouse leader” Wes Helms.  Quick take: why would a reporter ask Ramirez if he had lose respect for Fredi Gonzalez? Sure, Ramirez could have answered it any way he wanted to, but that’s awfully leading, isn’t it?  That aside, it’s not like Ramirez was taken out of context or anything.  What started as a booted ball and a a moment of hustle impairment has revealed what is apparently a deeply divided clubhouse.  Stay tuned, kids, because this is about to get interesting.

10:50 A.M. OK, it was bad enough that he got sent packing from last night’s game, but now Hanley Ramirez is just going nuts.  According to Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post, Ramirez told reporters Tuesday morning that he “lost some
respect” for manager Fredi Gonzalez after Monday’s benching.

To which I’d respond: if you had any respect for him to begin with, Hanley, you wouldn’t have loafed after that ball to begin with. Our respect for you, however, is plummeting quite quickly, thank you.

Ramirez also
said that
Gonzalez
doesn’t understand playing through
pain because “he never played in the big leagues,” which may as well be code for “I don’t feel like I have to listen to anything my manager says because that excuse applies to absolutely everything.”

According to Capozzi’s game story last night, Marlins’ owner Jeff Loria was in Fredi Gonzalez’s office after the game.  How happy would Loria be if he had a legitimate excuse — say, clubhouse chaos — for trying to unload Hanley Ramirez’s $70 million contract?

And yes, I realize that would be monumentally stupid form a competitive point of view. But it is Jeff Loria we’re talking about here, and he’s not exactly immune from letting financial considerations trump competitive ones.  You can’t tell me that the thought hasn’t crossed his mind.

  1. Joey B - May 18, 2010 at 2:09 PM

    “And it seems that a bat like Hanley would do wonders for the Red Sox as well,”
    I’m sure it would, but hitting isn’t our problem. We’re hitting very well now. This is the 5th time in the last 20 that we’ve given up double-digit runs, and we’re just inventing ways to lose. Last night, the 6-1 lead v the Tigers, the bases loaded with -0- outs in extra innings loss to TB.

  2. Jonny5 - May 18, 2010 at 2:10 PM

    Well thanks for the correction on the ownership that dismantled the 97 team, I was unaware ,and assumed Loria was the culprit. I like you Jimmy, you seem like a die hard ball fan, and must be to live life in Mass as a Marlins fan. One thing that baffles me to the core is how the Marlins always stay competitive even when they lose players because they deserve that big pay day. It seems there’s always someone to fill those shoes, and rather well. The scouts for Fla should be the best paid scouts in the country. Although you do give a good argument to support Loria, he’s infamous for being cheap ,and was recently forced by MLB to use some of the salary royalty proceeds for contracts to his players, because as you know, he had to. BTW wear those glasses proudly. And i don’t think Hanley is being dogged for the play, he’s being dogged about his attitude when he deserved to be benched. He could have, and should have just kept zipped about it and told everyone what they wanted to hear. “That won’t happen again”.

  3. JT - May 18, 2010 at 2:17 PM

    And the Mets would still stink.

  4. DaBurg - May 18, 2010 at 2:17 PM

    The AL East is plenty exciting. Just because the Sox suck, doesn’t mean the division isn’t exciting.
    It just means the Sox suck.

  5. Bill - May 18, 2010 at 2:46 PM

    Sounds good,as long as Hanley agrees to keep his shirt tucked in,which was a problem when he was playing for Portland(AA) and Pawtucket(AAA).

  6. Jimmy Marlins Fan - May 18, 2010 at 3:00 PM

    thanks jonny5, yeah…well born in miami and being an air force brat brought me to turn almost complete masshole
    but i learned to have that die-hard approach to being a fan…i mean…if you are going to be a fan, dont be half-hearted about it
    and you are right about the scouts…see thats the thing…loria was getting fleeced for years by huizenga under the lease agreement the marlins had with the stadium…which meant that with their fan support as is, it would be tough to make a profit…which i dont think anyone here will argue…so sometimes you have to sell before you want to because you know you wont have the money in a few years…everyone in the organization is banking the new stadium because if it fails…and with the rate teams are leaving florida for spring training and the rays stadium in flux…baseball in florida could very well be in jeopardy…so the stadium must succeed which means Loria better make the best damn stadium possible…if that happens…well just watch “Field of Dreams” because the city of miami definitely does not have a population problem and their tv ratings are pretty good…better than some bigger markets
    i agree about hanley but i suppose part of the thing about having superstar athletes on your team is they arent always going to act like how they should because they have never heard the word “no” before…not the first time, wont be the last…but can we put to rest any trade rumors after 1 dogged play?

  7. Jonny5 - May 18, 2010 at 3:29 PM

    Hanley is a hot commodity and with teams out there looking for what he can bring??? Let’s just say since he’s a Marlin the trade talk will most likely continue and be louder than most. I’d bet those marlin scouts are already seeing what good prospects could be snatched up for him. I mean, he has said he wants to be traded, and that was over a haircut. Loria is shrewd and his team is the MOST profitable team in the MLB. Here, bookmark this site, if a whisper of trade involving the Marlins surfaces, this is the first place to find it. If you don’t already know of it anyway..
    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/florida_marlins/index.html

  8. Jimmy Marlins Fan - May 18, 2010 at 3:47 PM

    while im sure hanley would bring in a nice catch…im not sure the marlins are even ready to look at other deals unless blown away by a deal
    loria has a man-crush on hanley and i just cant see him going anywhere…i mean i know everyone here will say boston…but theo seems as prepared to deal his prospects as i am to start rooting for the Braves(sorry craig)
    my guess is the dust settles and if the marlins go on a nice little winning streak…this is completely forgotten in 2 weeks time
    today’s crushing of the d-backs without hanley doesnt hurt the situation

  9. BC - May 18, 2010 at 3:59 PM

    The commenters on this blog entry could show up and crush the D’Backs. That’s no great accomplishment.

  10. peteinfla - May 18, 2010 at 4:00 PM

    ok, fair enough, but don’t you think having the Sox involved would make it even better? I realize that with the Rays, Yanks (and somehow the Jays all doing well), that you are right, there is plenty of excitement. As a long time Yankee fan though, I have always felt that having the Red Sox/Yankees hysteria -hatred invovled makes the Circus even more fun.

  11. Jimmy Marlins Fan - May 18, 2010 at 4:17 PM

    fair enough BC, but the day after the shenanigans happened during a loss, they came back and won without hanley…play well in st. louis and chicago and all is forgotten

  12. Dolittle - May 18, 2010 at 4:31 PM

    He plays for the Marlins, who cares or even watches them? Probably only 5,000 people in South Florida even know about this incident and if they did could care less.

  13. djbcn1 - May 20, 2010 at 9:40 AM

    damm i think is the team tht has him like tht he a good player he deserve a better team i think he look better as outfielder with the yankees lol idk the marlins have a bad team chemistry!!!!thts all i need to say

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