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Yankees making plans for the 'Phil Hughes Rules'

May 28, 2010, 12:44 PM EDT

Andrew Marchand of reports that the Yankees are making plans to implement the “Phil Hughes Rules” to limit the 24-year-old right-hander’s workload in his first full season as a starter.
Hughes has been fantastic, going 5-1 with a 2.72 ERA in eight starts, but according to Marchand the Yankees will likely take advantage of June’s many off days to give him extra rest between most starts.
Marchand surmises that the goal is to keep him under 175 innings for the year, which would be far less extreme than the previous “Joba Rules” given that Hughes is only on pace for about 185 innings right now (with his next start tonight against the Indians).
Joe Girardi and pitching coach Dave Eiland both sidestepped questions about Hughes’ workload, but general manager Brian Cashman explained: “That’s all up to Joe and Dave. They know just like last year with Joba what the limits are. We have pitching programs that are all based on things that have happened in recent history and past history.”
Joba Chamberlain threw 157.1 innings last season while starting 31 times and appearing out of the bullpen once, but in addition to the Yankees’ plan for his usage ineffectiveness also helped keep his workload down. Hughes is currently on pace to throw about 10 percent more pitches and log about 15 percent more innings than Chamberlain did as a 23-year-old.

  1. Dre - May 28, 2010 at 1:49 PM

    Worked well for Joba last year…

  2. GimmeSomeSteel - May 28, 2010 at 1:56 PM

    Second what Dre said. When do the Yankees schedule toilet training for their young “stars” (quotes for Joba only)? Or do they remain in diapers forever?

  3. CG - May 28, 2010 at 2:11 PM

    GimmeSomeSteel, have you noticed that almost every team limits IP for their young starters. The few teams/managers who don’t have caused tons of injuries to young pitchers.

  4. GimmeSomeSteel - May 28, 2010 at 2:22 PM

    Agreed, CG, but most just do it without making up and publicizing “So-and-So Rules” that they change every three days. Not everything has to be done with trumpet and horn flourishes and a major production number, even in New York.

  5. CG - May 28, 2010 at 2:52 PM

    Oh, I completely agree. I don’t think this is on the Yankees however, being that neither Eiland or Girardi has said anything. It’s really just the media filling space.

  6. Joe Girardi - May 28, 2010 at 3:58 PM

    I love it – I side-step the question and get lambasted for a policy I have not spoken about publicly.
    Go ask Kerry Wood if he would have liked Wood rules. Ask Mark Prior if he would have appreciated Prior rules.
    The reason you don’t hear about other teams rules for young pitchers is because nobody asks other teams.

  7. Eric Cioe - May 28, 2010 at 4:17 PM

    The Tigers limited Rick Porcello’s load last season and no one made a big stink about it to the media. He was on an 90ish pitch count for almost the whole season and only broke 100 four times. They were trying to put him around 160 innings. He ended up throwing 10 extra, partly because of game 163. But yes, they limited his innings and the “Ricky Rules” wasn’t mentioned every time he stepped on the mound.

  8. D-Luxxx - May 28, 2010 at 5:55 PM

    This sounds to me like they are trying to limit his innings by keeping his starts down. Think this has anything to do with them trying to keep Vazquez from pitching at home? It will be a lot easier to say “oh, we decided to have Hughes start today since he hasn’t worked for a while…”

  9. quint - May 28, 2010 at 6:15 PM

    Why limit Hughes innings?
    Personally, I think younger smaller players in the majors have problems. Hughes is bit, got a good frame and has been around the majors long enough to know how to work.
    He could easily throw 210 this year with no problems.
    The same was guys like Verlander and Lester have had bit increases in innings over the holy 30 with no ill effects. Its because their bodies could handle it.
    Though as a Red Sox fan, I am quite happy they are limiting the innings of their best pitcher.

  10. MEL - May 29, 2010 at 12:56 AM

    do you and ‘gimmesome’ realize that neither Girardi or Cashman advertised any of this? They were ASKED about Joba last year, just like they were asked about Phil this year.
    Sometimes there’s a difference when the Tigers do something because there is less media attention. Doesn’t mean the Yanks are the ones advertising their every move, in fact it would be better for them if the rest of the league didn’t know every move they made.

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