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Mets players want Oliver Perez gone

May 31, 2010, 8:38 AM EDT

Oliver Perez mopes.jpgNews flash: Oliver Perez is having a pretty terrible year. He has walked 32 dudes in 26 innings against only 29 strikeouts and has an ERA of 6.25. His demotion to the bullpen hasn’t helped anyone either, with his latest performance coming Saturday against the Brewers when he gave up three runs just as the Mets started to rally themselves.

Now two anonymous Mets players are telling the New York Post’s Mike Puma that they want Ollie gone:

“You tell him you go to Triple-A or that’s it, you are finished,” one
Mets player said, well aware that Perez is still owed about $20 million
on the three-year contract he signed before the 2009 season.

A
second Mets player echoed that line of thinking.

“At some point you have to cut bait,” he said. “You owe him a lot of
money, but for what?”

The need for the ultimatum, of course, is that as a veteran in the middle of a big multi-year contract, Ollie must give his permission before accepting a minor league assignment, and Scott Boras clients just don’t do that. What they do do, however, is leave the team once they’re designated for assignment, because they have no choice.  Likewise it seems like the Mets have little choice but to do the designating.

Perez is terrible, there’s nowhere to hide him and he has lost the confidence of his teammates and his manager. Indeed, Puma asked Jerry Manuel when, exactly, he’d consider using Ollie. Manuel’s answer: “That’s really a tough question. [Maybe] extra innings or
something like that, but it’s going to be tough to find spots for him.” The response to that by one of the anonymous players:

“What, we need another 20-inning game and then use him after we’ve used
all our pitchers and if a position player’s sinker isn’t biting?”

Wow. It’s one thing to have a useless player on the team. It’s another thing to have a useless player who is being openly mocked by his teammates. $20 million is a lot of money to flush down the toilet, but it’s time for the Mets to do it.

  1. frizz one - May 31, 2010 at 9:56 AM

    dude you need to write better if your going to post crap on CNN.

  2. Old Gator - May 31, 2010 at 10:11 AM

    Dude, you’re going to have to learn to spell, capitalize and punctuate better if you’re going to post crap here without making yourself look like an illiterate jackass.
    .
    If I were Oliver Perez, I’d take one look at Mike Puma’s article, pause for a moment to consider that he is, after all, a writer for the Post, and if I concluded that the article was probably true anyway, I’d request to be released. It’s one thing to be having a bad season, and another to have to work among a bunch of backstabbing slugs who don’t even have the huevos to say things like that to your face.
    .
    I’d also love to see what kind of numbers the lowlives who made those comments in the security and comfort of their anonymity have been putting up themselves this year. It would also be fun to find out if they’ve voluntarily tucked their own tails between their legs and slunk off to the minor leagues last time they went through a bad patch.
    .
    Most of all, if I were Mike Puma I’d have a good long look in the mirror and ask what kind of integrity is in play when I’m such an avid accessory to this sort of character assassination. Then again, I would probably sleep on a steam grating before I’d draw a paycheck from Rupert Murdock anyway.

  3. sjp - May 31, 2010 at 11:07 AM

    Where is the outrage?
    Mike Sweeney is en route San Diego where he plans to enter the Mets locker room and challenge these anonymous players to come forward and fight him. Obviously, if no one comes forward, the reporter just made the whole thing up.

  4. Professor Longnose - May 31, 2010 at 11:54 AM

    You are kidding us again, Old Man?
    It would be in Mr. Perez’ best interests to be released no matter what his teammates’ attitude toward him is. He is going to be paid the same and he is not going to be pitching very many innings with the Mets. There is a chance that some team is so far out of it that they’ll take a chance on him in their major league rotation for a while. More likely, he would be offered minor league contracts anyway.
    I haven’t read the Post article (it is the Post, after all), but the quotes here don’t seem to be about character. They’re about whether the Mets should release Perez. That seems to me to have nothing to do with money, since the Mets have to pay him anyway. It concerns the relative value of the roster spot vs the value of Perez’s chance to be able to pitch somewhat more effectively.
    As for the reporter being used for character assassination, in the words of Gossage (or maybe it was Vardebedian), “Surely you jest, Pops.” Yes, they don’t have Perez’ back, and the Mets have to deal with that before it destroys their clubhouse. But if they feel that Perez’ refusal to go to the minor leagues is not having their backs, well, I can understand.
    Just out of curiosity, what is the length of a “patch”? Perez’ WHIP has been >1.90 for the last 102 innings over 2 years.

  5. Old Gator - May 31, 2010 at 12:18 PM

    Not sure if there’s a formal definition of a “patch.” Carlos Silva might have one, though. Why not go ask him?
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    Players have bad years and come back. They even have bad “patches,” if not back forties. They usually have general managers whose job it is to release them when their performance is deemed endemic and hopeless. But my disgust wasn’t based on money or on Perez’s performance. It was based on the gutless way that his so-called teammates went about making their feelings known without confronting him to his face. Oh, they’ve got his back alright – just enough to stick knives in it. If that sort of thing is OK with you, I guess there’s not much point debating it. Moreover, this isn’t exactly a team of all-stars, is it? They’ve been the most spectacular chokers in the history of baseball for “a patch” themselves, haven’t they? I mean, when and where exactly did they collectively pile up the moral high ground from which to toss Ollie to the volcano god?
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    Come to think of it, when did readers of that miserable lowbrow atavistic yellow rag become the volcano god in the first place?

  6. Hobo Junction - May 31, 2010 at 2:33 PM

    There’s a big assumption there that Ollie’s teammates haven’t been saying such things to his face. The fact is, we just don’t know, and making such speculation about what’s going on is silly.

  7. Old Gator - May 31, 2010 at 3:17 PM

    I think it’s fair to conclude that if they’re going to a reporter anonymously, they’re not exactly being blunt about it in person. It’s hard to imagine what it is they’d have to worry about and hide behind the “unnamed sources” gambit if they’d been honest with him to his face. What we do know – assuming, again, you can take the New York Post at face value – is how they’re behaving behind his back, which would still be pretty gutless under any circumstances.

  8. Professor Longnose - May 31, 2010 at 7:18 PM

    Normally I would agree with you about players attacking teammates in the newspapers, especially when it causes problems in the clubhouse. Here, however, it seems a bit different. It’s possible these players see Perez as the one causing problems, and themselves as suporting “the team” by letting Perez know his teammates don’t like his decision.
    Not that I know if that’s true, of course. I’m not privvy to any of these players’ feelings. It just feels like your reaction was very one-sided.
    By the way, I’m anti-Met, so the whole thing amuses me, and I’m glad it’s causing problems.
    Someone should definitely study the characteristics of a patch. Looking at Perez’ career statistics, it might be that he isn’t in a bad patch now at all, but has merely emerged from a 2-year patch of being not horrible.

  9. Joey B - Jun 1, 2010 at 10:30 AM

    “I haven’t read the Post article (it is the Post, after all), but the quotes here don’t seem to be about character. They’re about whether the Mets should release Perez. That seems to me to have nothing to do with money, since the Mets have to pay him anyway.”
    1-You should read the Post. It has the best sports section in the city. And to be honest, people from the right and left should read both sides of the equation. We already have too many people begging for mind-control.
    2-I don’t think it’s the money as much as the fact that writing off that much money admits a mistake. My RS make mistakes also, but when guys like Lugo don’t work out, trying to pretend it’s not an issue does not help to resolve it. Detroit just cut Willis. That should tell the NYMs something.
    “Just out of curiosity, what is the length of a “patch”? Perez’ WHIP has been >1.90 for the last 102 innings over 2 years.”
    He ERA over the past 6 years is 5.05. He’s got talent. I’ve seen him torture the NYY. But the team really needs all 25 roster spots contributing.

  10. Oliver Perez - Jun 1, 2010 at 1:26 PM

    No one is “openly” mocking him. The quotes are ANONYMOUS. Duh.

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