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The five men that went before Derek Jeter in '92

Jun 6, 2010, 5:08 PM EDT

jeter running out of box.jpgIn a recent piece for the New York Times, Tyler Kepner traveled back in history for a look at the 1992 MLB Draft, when Derek Jeter was selected sixth overall by the Yankees.  Kepner spoke to the scouts that drafted Jeter and others who were present and conscious of the Yanks’ thinking when the future Hall of Famer was snatched.  It’s a great read and a great story, especially when you consider the five names that came off the board before Jeter:

1st overall.  Phil Nevin – 3B – Astros: Nevin was a stud in college for Cal State-Fullerton and lasted 12 years in the major leagues.  He finished his career with a .270 batting average, 208 home runs and 743 RBI in 1217 games.  Now he manages the Tigers’ Double-A affiliate in Erie, Pennsylvania.

2nd overall.  Paul Shuey – RHP – Indians: The reliever had several quality seasons and finished with a 3.87 ERA in 476 career appearances for the Tribe, Dodgers and Orioles.  Of course, Cleveland didn’t draft him with the hope that he would turn into a mediocre middle reliever and he threw his last major league pitch in 2007.

3rd overall.  B.J. Wallace – LHP – Expos: Wallace was a strikeout machine during his days at Mississippi State University and had a superb opening season in the Single-A Florida State League in 1993.  But injuries plagued him often and he failed to ever reach the major leagues.  By 1996 he was out of baseball altogether.

4th overall.  Jeffery Hammonds – OF – Orioles: Considered a five-tool player when he was selected out of Stanford University, Hammonds shot quickly through the O’s system and made his MLB debut in 1993.  He failed to ever live up to the hype, though, and hung up his cleats in 2005 with a .272/.338/.449 career batting line in 957 games.

5th overall.  Chad Motolla – OF – Reds: Motolla didn’t debut with the Reds until late 1996 and played in only 59 major league games.  He’s better known for his success in the minor leagues, where he’s among the all-time leaders in hits and RBI.  Now 38, he works as a hitting coach in the Blue Jays’ system.

Some guys — and some clubs, really — just have all the luck.  Jeter, 35, has a .387 career on-base percentage, a .458 slugging percentage, 2,820 hits and 311 stolen bases over his 15-plus professional seasons with the Yankees.  He debuted in 1995 and is currently batting .301/.350/.435 with six home runs, 34 RBI and six steals in 242 at-bats.  This year’s amateur draft begins on Monday.  The Nationals, of course, are on the clock and are fully expected to draft 17-year-old catcher Bryce Harper.

  1. YankeesfanLen - Jun 6, 2010 at 7:48 PM

    The ultimate question: Did Jeter make the Yankees, or did the Yankees make Jeter? With the luck of the draw” core four it may be forever impossible to tell.

  2. Paul Martin - Jun 6, 2010 at 9:17 PM

    The Yankees must have been a bad team that year, otherwise they would not have been drafting 6th. Yankee fans should remember that in a few years they might again be drafting that early.

  3. peteinfla - Jun 6, 2010 at 9:28 PM

    Based on what, exactly? While the Yankees obviously have some older players like Jeer, Arod, Pettitte, Posada…, they also have some good, younger players like Gardner, Cervelli, Cano, Hughes, Chmaberlain, … and some guys who will certainky still be around and good in a few years, like Tex, Sabathia, Burnett. They have a solid minor league, more money than they know what to do with and the willingness to spend it. Your conclusion seems to be based on your dislike for them, not based on anything tangible.

  4. blackbeered - Jun 6, 2010 at 9:49 PM

    Jeter, 35, has a .387 career on-base percentage, a .458 slugging percentage, 2,820 hits and 311 stolen bases over his 15-plus professional seasons with the Yankees.
    What part of that makes it a “Hall of Fame Career”?
    Don’t sound like impressive stats to me.
    No 3,000 hits? No 500 HRs? No 1,500 RBIs? No .300 lifetime batting average? No .400 OBP? No .500 slugging percentage? No 500 stolen bases?
    So the guy hung around a long time in a brutal market. Is that all it takes these days?

  5. Tom - Jun 6, 2010 at 10:27 PM

    blackbeered you’re by far the dumbest person to ever grace this board. Jeter isn’t retiring tomorrow so he will end up with AT LEAST 3000 hits AT LEAST 5 championships. And just about every playoff record that you can have.

  6. rusty - Jun 6, 2010 at 10:36 PM

    actually he has a .317 lifetime ba. To go along with two gold gloves and 5 world series rings. Since he already has 2820 hits he’ll have 3000 by early next year. Sooooooo… you even watch baseball?

  7. JBerardi - Jun 6, 2010 at 10:39 PM

    I really hope you’re just trying to rile up Yankee fans with that remark…

  8. FifthAce - Jun 6, 2010 at 10:49 PM

    What an odd comment, BlackBeered.
    You say, “No .300 lifetime batting average” when Jeter entered the 2010 season sitting at .317.
    You say, “No 3000 hits” when Jeter now has over 2,800 and hasn’t yet turned 36. Barring major injury he’s a virtual lock to pass that milestone by a comfortable margin.
    You belittle a .387 OBP and .458 slugging percentage from a SS when the most recent player to enter The Hall having spent most of his career at SS was Cal Ripken who had a .340 OBP and .447 slugging percentage.
    I’ll give you a pass on any comparisons against Ozzie as the Wizard made it (deservedly so) more for his defense. But prior to Ripken and Oz the last player to make the Hall having played more games at SS than any other position was Yount (.342 OBP, .430 slugging).
    Jeter will almost assuredly make the HOF and will have earned his way in. Will he be among the super-elite members, such as Aaron, Mays, Ruth, Gehrig, Young, Cobb, Walter Johnson, and Hornsby? Of course not. But he also won’t be among the inductees who leave future generations scratching their heads and wondering what the voters were thinking. He will be an absolutely legit middle-of-the-Hall selection.

  9. Roger Moore - Jun 6, 2010 at 11:19 PM

    What part of that makes it a “Hall of Fame Career”?
    The part where he did it all while playing shortstop every day.

  10. Nick - Jun 7, 2010 at 12:03 AM

    Jeter is definitely a HOFer, but can we quit the whole “He has 5 rings!” stuff? Yes he does, but he didn’t win them all on his own. He had a TON of help. Paul O’Neill also has 5 rings; is he a HOFer? No. Because it’s not a reason for being one. Let Jeter’s number tell his tale.

  11. jwb - Jun 7, 2010 at 12:59 AM

    Just wait until Kepner comes out with his 10 volume set, “The 1,388 Men Who Were Better than Mike Piazza”!

  12. tjr - Jun 7, 2010 at 5:45 AM


  13. Paul from Virginia - Jun 7, 2010 at 7:02 AM

    re: comments by blackbeered
    It is obvious that you are a Yankee hater. Go do the due diligence before you start throwing around your no-Yankee no-way nonsense.

  14. Joey B - Jun 7, 2010 at 9:01 AM

    Even as a RS fan, it’s idiocy to badmouth Jeter.
    Having said that, the interesting thing is that he is also the last positional player drafted by the NYY to have a material impact on the team.

  15. Cards Fan - Jun 7, 2010 at 9:21 AM

    Now we need a sequel – “The 401 men that went before Albert Pujols in 1999”

  16. Joey B - Jun 7, 2010 at 10:31 AM

    And who was pick #493 for the NYY in 1979?
    Disclaimer-He was picked in the 19th round, but since the NYY had signed 18 free agents the previous year, he was technically their #1.

  17. Barry R - Jun 7, 2010 at 10:45 AM

    tjr –
    Frank Crosetti — who spent 37 years with the Yankees, 14 as a player (he was the SS on their great teams of the 30s) and 23 as their 3B coach. The Crow was part of 22 World Series champions, 8 as a player, 14 as the man who waved home over 16,000 Yankee runners.
    He is truly a Yankee legend and I hope when the Yankees retire Jeter’s number that he insists they honor Crosetti as well, just as Yogi’s number honors Dickey. While Crosetti was not a Hall of Famer, for those of us old enough to remember him, he was certainly a Yankee icon.

  18. BC - Jun 7, 2010 at 11:48 AM

    Mike Gallego, I believe.

  19. Rays fan - Jun 7, 2010 at 11:49 AM

    As should be obvious from my handle, I’m no Yankees fan-boy, but I do know quality when I see it even though you apparently do not. From Baseball Reference’s web site, below is a smattering or WARs for some shortstops. Notice that even if Jeter never plays another game, he’s #54 all-time in career WAR (#5 among players who spent significant portions of their careers playing shortstop)–in other words, he’s a Hall of Famer if he retires today, but as stated by other above, his numbers will continue to climb.
    Jeter: 70.0 (#54 all-time, all field positions)
    Honus Wagner:134.5
    Below him:
    Barry Larkin: 68.9
    Alan Trammel: 66.9
    Ozzie Smith 64.6
    Ernie Banks: 64.4
    Luis Aparicio: 49.9

  20. tjr - Jun 7, 2010 at 2:05 PM

    You got the answer Mike had a cup of coffee with the Yanks in 1995 then derek came along.Pass it on to your Grandkids. tjrpapay

  21. Chris G - Jun 7, 2010 at 2:32 PM

    All that matters is this, Jeter owns several of the best rings money can buy. Too bad he didnt actually earn one, instead old money bags bought them for him. This is what makes me proud to be a Yankee hater. GO SOX!!!!! Jeter can win his last right proudly seeing how it only cost the Yankees a BILLION dollars over the next 7!!!

  22. Omega in Colorado - Jun 7, 2010 at 2:43 PM

    I think what Jeter brings to the Yankees more than his nubmers at the plate and his defense at SS is his leadership. The guys on that team absolutely love him and would march thru hell and back for him if he asked. That has brought the Yankees more success than anything else during his career in my opinion.
    He has also been incredibly lucky to be with an organization that has the means and the drive to get the right players on the field to win.
    Signed as a long long time NL fan and someone who is indiffernet to the Yankees.

  23. Fanamine - Jun 7, 2010 at 3:08 PM

    “All that matters is this, Jeter owns several of the best rings money can buy. Too bad he didnt actually earn one, instead old money bags bought them for him. This is what makes me proud to be a Yankee hater. GO SOX!!!!! Jeter can win his last right proudly seeing how it only cost the Yankees a BILLION dollars over the next 7!!!”
    Chris, anyone who is proud of hating others does not have a clue as to what sportsmanship is about. It is too bad a very good team like the Sox are straddled with such envious and crybay fans like you. Your team has won 2 titles in the last seven years and you gripe. Sox fans were insufferable before 2004 and just plain classless since. As you seem to not be mature enough to accept or understand, Jeter will go to the hall of fame. Grow up and stop whining. It is very unbecoming.

  24. Chris G - Jun 7, 2010 at 3:19 PM

    I agree blackbeered. Ignore the bandwagon Yankee fans. There are far more players that have more a more impressive record. They just can’t see past the pin stripes. If they could, there is no way .211 Mark Texiera is leading the balloting for 1st base allstars. Justin Morneau is leading the AL in more than one stat, and Texiera is batting .172. Too bad Yankees aren’t on the Juice!

  25. Fanamine - Jun 7, 2010 at 3:40 PM

    Chris G-“I agree blackbeered. Ignore the bandwagon Yankee fans. Too bad Yankees aren’t on the Juice!”
    Could you be more of an embarassment to your team? You are a bandwagon Sox fan asking to ignore another team’s bandwagon fans. What a hypocrite! Yes, Manny and Mr. Ortiz never juiced, did they? They are even worse as they were juiced for that 2004 title. Glasses houses and stones are unfamiliar to you, aren’t they? I can see that 86 years of punishment was not enough for you crybabies.

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