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The story of Pete Rose's corked bat

Jun 8, 2010, 12:15 PM EDT

One of Pete Rose’s old lackeys — Tommy Gioiosa — told the world many years ago that Rose corked his bats.  Based on everything we knew about the guy at the time: that he was a risk-taker, a pathological competitor and a guy who viewed rules as something less than mild suggestions, it wasn’t hard to believe him.

But now there’s proof of it, in the form of one of Charlie Hustle’s bats from his 1985 chase of Ty Cobb, cork and all. It comes along with a story of the bat’s history over at Deadspin today that is some good readin’.

So: even if we get Rose un-banned, is everyone still comfortable with him making the Hall of Fame? Or does the old unlevel playing field argument apply only to steroids?

UPDATEHere’s a lot more on Pete Rose and the corked bat, including my response to your comments about how corked bats aren’t supposed to help anybody.

  1. heisstilladick - Jun 8, 2010 at 3:51 PM

    we do love the game he played great, hustled every play … but he was also a asshole of a person he was miserable outside of the stadium and he is still miserable and will probably always be.. and yes he was the greatest hitter most of us have seen but he is one of the biggest pricks in this era

  2. mjb - Jun 8, 2010 at 3:59 PM

    If they all cheat, then it is a level playing field. A guy throwing spit balls at a guy that’s juiced sounds fair to me. Makes a joke out of the game but it’s level.

  3. Jim - Jun 8, 2010 at 4:09 PM

    You know, I go to the movies, and enjoy TV programs, with full knowledge that the actors involved are arrogant and over-paid. It doesn’t mean I won’t watch, it just means I wouldn’t name them as god-parents to my children! I’m a Philly guy. Ask anyone around here what they think of Charlie Hustle. We have some great memories of him. Just sayin’.

  4. Ben - Jun 8, 2010 at 7:52 PM

    I think that he should now be reinstated! That way, the BBWA can keep him out throughout his eligibility and then the veterans committee can insure that he never gets in. It would hurt him more to not get the votes than to be banned.

  5. JK, PA - Jun 8, 2010 at 9:14 PM

    Up until this report, I was always for giving Rose his chance for the Hall of Fame induction. If this finding stands correct, then I will do a 180. Bottom line, if you cheat WHILE PLAYING the sport, your out. Steroids or corked bats, etc., equals NO INDUCTION.

  6. phillysucks - Jun 9, 2010 at 8:24 AM

    jim … get a life … p.s. genos sucks too

  7. mike - Jun 13, 2010 at 12:46 PM

    I have the ULTIMATE answer the Rose and the Hall of Fame.
    1st, do you have a child that plays sports, especially baseball?
    Think of the words we as parents and coaches or fans use to TEACH our kids or tell them how to play.
    Hustle, pride, hardnosed, dive, drive, swing the bat, get tuff, concentrate, go for it, play all out. I am certain I let out about 100.
    Oh course every one fits PETE ROSE. Like him or not.
    If your son played for the local, little league team, middle or high school team and he played the way Rose did “OUT PERFORM” not just occasionally but every day, AS A PARENT HOW WOULD YOU FEEL?
    Not only would you feel great but you would profess my kids going to the majors.
    Once he Made it to the Majors and continued to OUTPERFORM you would tell people and NOW PEOPLE WOULD BE SAYING he will be one of the greatest.
    Now he gets more HITS than everyone, double, triples and all the attributes and accomplihments that you could ever imagine and more you would be telling people “HE ISSS GOING TO THE HALL OF FAME”
    Not he might, but HE IS.
    Every parent in this country wished their kid could perform like PETE ROSE in what ever they do. Sports, school, politics whatever.
    BUT WHY? Because it would mean that the kid is the very best or among the VERY VERY best to every play the game.
    Ask your self (BE HONEST) Do you wish you kid could perform like and put up the numbers that Pete Rose did?
    Of course you do because it would mean that your kid was the best in the business, something to be proud of. VERY PROUD.
    Now what if you kid in spite of such performance was a JACKASS, JERK, GAMBLES, DRANK, SMACKED HIS WIFE, would you still be proud of his accopmlishments on the field? Hell yes you would AND RIGHTFULLY SO>
    LAST QUESTION, lets say the kid tried to change his ways but still struggled, would you disown him, have nothing to do with him and never allow him to communicate with you or you family again.
    Lets say you daughter had a son and wanted him to play baseball, would you say great but I will be Damned if Uncle Pete is going to teach him how to hit or play the game?
    really think about this.
    If Pete was your son and you can’t honestly say that you would disown him, if you can’t honestly say that you would not want your grandchildren to learn baseball from Pete then the Guy belongs in the Hall of Fame.
    Ask yourself this Question what if you were Pete Rose.
    All you life you lived but to accomplish one thing and you did it.
    Did it to the point where your picture was next to the word baseball in the dictionary, books and magazines. Or you name was in the sentence or explainantion of baseball or how the game should be played. Would you want to be in The Hall Of Fame?
    Of Course you would and so does Pete Rose.

  8. Glenn - Jul 7, 2010 at 7:27 PM

    And he conveniently is left out of the PED discussion, despite a lot of circumstantial evidence – the biggest two being his great muscle/weight gain before his breakout season and his Barry Bonds-like cranium

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