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What the heck is going on with Valentine and the Marlins?

Jun 28, 2010, 8:45 AM EDT

The only thing we know for sure is that Edwin Rodriguez is still the manager of the Marlins. Which, given what I said the other day about the whole Puerto Rico thing, is nice.  Otherwise: pure chaos.

As Drew chronicled last night in a series of updates that reflects just how wacky the situation is down in Miami, Bobby Valentine is no longer being considered for the Marlins’ job. Probably, anyway.  Late last night Ken Rosenthal reported what everyone else is saying — the deal is off — but added one little tidbit: the dispute between Valentine and the club was apparently not about money. Rather, it was about “philosophy.”

That could mean anything. As Rosenthal notes, there appears to be some dissent between Loria and team president David Samson, the latter of which is not a Valentine fan. It could also have to do with timing and the leaks of his impending hiring and any number of things. Loria is apparently nuts and Valentine has never been accused of being some kind of ego-free zen master, so it could have broken down over the backdrop for the press conference for all we know.

What we do know, however, is that the Marlins are a train wreck at the moment. Rosenthal sums it up the best: “At best, the Marlins are confused. At worst, they are in turmoil. Either
way, they are an embarrassment.”  He also calls Loria a “low-rent George Steinbrenner.” That made me laugh, but I don’t think you can divorce Steinbrenner’s, um, colorful nature from his high-rent ways. He thought he could — and often did — buy whatever he wanted. That’s pretty much what characterized everything he did and what made him the unique phenomenon that he was, for good and for bad.  Loria, on the other hand, is just a jerk and a cheapskate and those are really a dime a dozen.

But back to the Marlins: who would possibly want that job now?

  1. Old Gator - Jun 28, 2010 at 9:55 AM

    I’ll just reiterate what I commented under Drew’s post last night: Where “philosophy” is concerned, try to imagine Bobby leaving his comfortable gig at ESPN to manage a team with a built-in failure quotient right in its payroll budget. Valentine was not going to come to a team whose owner tied his hands with an unrealistically attenuated budget and probably asked for assurances that he’d be given the players he needed to get the job done. And no doubt he wanted a generally freer hand in making personnel and strategy decisions than “old dear friend” Scrooge McLoria was willing to extend to him. The Champ of Cheapskates is now probably out looking for another lapdog like he thought he was getting in Fat Freddi.
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    As far as disputes within the home office, I could see Larry Beinfest getting fed up with the situation, knowing that if Scrooge gave him the Joe Girardi treatment there’d be at least a dozen other teams falling all over each other to command his services and bidding his salary up and up and up in the process. The spectacle of the Chihuahua going head to head with Scrooge McLoria is hysterical, though. I can just see him bouncing back and forth, yipping and snapping at Valentine’s feet every time he walked into the office. What else would he do? Be Dan LeBatard’s new straight man?
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    I can also see him trying to hump Scrooge’s leg every time he sits down on his office couch.

  2. Paper Lions - Jun 28, 2010 at 11:11 AM

    This situation isn’t “wacky”. The problem is everyone reporting every FO consideration or discussion as if they represent final decisions. Here is a novel idea. Why not wait until news happens…then report it. Outside of the media itself, NO ONE CARES WHO REPORTED SOMETHING FIRST. You know what we do care about? Accurate reporting.

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