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Why did Bobby Valentine and the Marlins hit the skids?

Jun 30, 2010, 1:12 PM EDT

The same reason any lovebirds quarrel: money, money and Ozzie Guillen.

I don’t know why Bobby Valentine and the Marlins went sideways. As I said yesterday, I’m still rather surprised we haven’t yet seen a behind-the-scenes report from one of the usual insidery writers like Heyman or Rosenthal or whoever about what happened over the past week.  In the absence of that we’re stuck with guesses and — oh yes — gossip.

I don’t even have any first hand gossip on it (which itself is kind on an oxymoron) but there’s a blog down in Miami called City of Champions that claims to have sources who know what went down with Bobby V. and the Feesh.  The whole post is here. The three main reasons cited:

  • Bobby V. asked the Marlins to commit to increased payroll. They balked, and even wouldn’t rule out keeping Hanley Ramirez for the long term;
  • Bobby V. asked for a lot of money for himself, more so than Jeff Loria even thought he might; and
  • Finally — and this is the most interesting — the Marlins are “infatuated” with Ozzie Guillen and, according to CoC’s sources, “there is no chance he’s returning [to the White Sox] next season” so the Marlins may be carrying a torch for the guy.

Again: I just met the City of Champions blog, so I can’t vouch for any of that.  All I can say is that at least the first two bullet points seem plausible, and the third, while maybe not quite as plausible — how can the Sox fire Guillen if the Sox remain respectable this year? — is not totally insane. The most I can say is that City of Champions has passed along other Marlins rumors in the past and, based on their self-reported track record, they’ve hit for a pretty decent average.

Maybe none of this is true, but I really don’t see any reason why, in a world in which we all pass along every Heyman, Olney and Rosenthal blind item, we can’t pass this one along as well.

  1. Jonny5 - Jun 30, 2010 at 1:27 PM

    I heard Loria wouldn’t cover teeth whitening expenses Valentine requires hourly.

  2. DualLeads - Jun 30, 2010 at 4:32 PM

    Could it just be the pundits or the author simply don’t know what they’re talking about to begin with?

  3. Old Gator - Jun 30, 2010 at 8:41 PM

    The Chihuahua was on the Dan LeBatard show this evening on 790 The Teekit, doing a little song and dance about how there was never any power struggle and he and Scrooge McLoria were always “on the same page.” He avoided all questions about what, exactly, was the reason that they decided not to hire Valentine and retreated into his defensive posture, cute little fangs bared, to the point that Stugatz, in effect LeBatard’s Ed McMahon, described his answers as a “dog and pony show,” whereupon the Chihuahua puffed up and demanded to know what Stugatz meant. A great opportunity lost: instead of responding “it means you’re full of shit,” which of course was exactly what he meant, Stugatz just mumbled something and withdrew behind his personal Zardoz, LeBatard. Pity.
    Incidentally, somewhere along the line on that show Stugatz mentioned that Valentine claimed he found his treatment by the Feesh “insulting” or some such thing. The Chihuahua pleaded ignorance, one of the few believable postures he struck during that conversation. I haven’t come across that bit of info anywhere else. Anyone see something to that effect?

  4. 27xchamps - Jul 1, 2010 at 12:01 PM

    loria is scum… calle ocho park coming soon … yeah arepas and jose’s cant wait to drive to the crappiest neighborhood in dade county to watch the stinking fish…. why couldn’t they have disbanned the marlins in hindsight i would of rather of had the nats or even the expos if there was no loria!!!!!!! i feel sorry for the baseball fans in south florida.. brightside we have mlb network

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