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Report: Twins offer prospects Aaron Hicks and Wilson Ramos to Mariners for Cliff Lee

Jul 6, 2010, 12:15 AM EDT

Jeff Fletcher of AOL Fanhouse reports that an “MLB source hears” the Twins have offered outfield prospect Aaron Hicks and catcher prospect Wilson Ramos to the Mariners for Cliff Lee.
As a Twins fan the notion of adding Lee to the rotation for the second half is exciting, but Hicks and Ramos is significantly more than I’d be willing to give up. Coming into the season Baseball America ranked Hicks at the 19th-best prospect in the game and Ramos also cracked their top 100 at No. 58.
For the Twins to give up both of them for a half-season of Lee and a pair of compensatory draft picks when he leaves as a free agent would be very uncharacteristic, not to mention quite a bit more than other rumored packages. And if the Mariners can get a top-25 prospect and a top-75 prospect for Lee perhaps the “Jack Zduriencik is a genius” bandwagon will start filling up again.
UPDATE: LaVelle E. Neal III of the Minneapolis Star Tribune chimes in to say: “Nothing close on Lee, a Twins source tells me. Still guessing that talks are fluid.”

  1. Wings - Jul 6, 2010 at 12:40 AM

    The thing about Hicks and Ramos is that both of their positions are currently adequately filled at the major league level and will be for quite some time. With Mauer and Span locked up long term, Young arbitration eligible through 2012 and Kubel and Cuddy signed through 2011, Hicks and Ramos aren’t likely to see much action with the Twins for a while and are therefore expendable. Plus, with the two compensation picks coming to the team after Lee heads to the Yankees, Red Sox or Mets in the offseason would allow Minnesota to pick up what could effectively be Hicks and Ramos’ replacements.
    Is this the type of move normally associated with the Twins’ front office? No. Does that make it the wrong move for either club? Absolutely not. There will always be prospects out there, but the legitimate opportunity to add an ace the caliber of Cliff Lee to a team with the offensive potential of the Twins is something special that Bill Smith should not pass up.

  2. MikeM - Jul 6, 2010 at 1:05 AM

    The M’s need players, not prospects, and they should get one or two for Lee because he can make the difference between 2nd place and the World Series for a lot of teams. Lee was traded from Cleveland for prospects and from Philly for prospects, none of whom will ever be heard from again. Seattle can’t afford to do that because they have such a sad looking everyday lineup. They don’t need to try for a top player for Lee, because even a fairly average player will look like a superstar in the M’s lineup. Right now they just need a guy or two who can at least hit their weight.

  3. Bill@TDS - Jul 6, 2010 at 1:05 AM

    Aaron Hicks is 20 and hasn’t played in AA yet. That they’ve got two key outfield pieces who are signed through next season only makes Hicks pretty much the opposite of expendable.

  4. KrazyK4024 - Jul 6, 2010 at 1:13 AM

    Well Bill@TDS stole my thunder, but I very much agree with his sentiment. Hicks is still at low-A so there is no way he’d be a contributor next season. What would be a good guess for ETA, 2012 at the earliest, but more likely 2013 or 2014? By that point, Cuddyer will be 33-35 years old and Kubel will be 30-32 so there’s good chance they’ll need to be replaced anyway. Not to mention neither seem to have the skills that will hold up at that age, but rather they could crash hard.
    I’m pretty okay giving up Ramos, since we got that Mauer guy, but I would really not want to see Hicks in any deal.

  5. chickengobawk - Jul 6, 2010 at 1:52 AM

    This stinks of a team leaking a fake rumor to drive up a guys trade value. Or bad reporting, either or this sounds like nonsense.

  6. Maxa - Jul 6, 2010 at 2:37 AM

    Ugh I hope this isn’t true. I’d sooner give up Slowey and Ramos (and even that is too pricey for my taste).

  7. Bodhizefa - Jul 6, 2010 at 6:34 AM

    I’ve seen a lot of Twins fans up in arms about giving up the likes of Hicks and Ramos. A 21-year-old A-baller whose slugging percentage is barely above .400 and a catcher who is probably only marginally better than Adam Moore doesn’t exactly strike me as something Twins fans should be that upset about. Sure, they’ve both got some solid potential, but Cliff Lee is one of the best pitchers in baseball, and he gives the Twins a deadly 1-2 playoff combo along with Liriano.
    Hicks is years away and Ramos, like all catchers, has as much chance of flaming out as he does making it in the big leagues. Cliff Lee plus two compensatory draft picks seems like a pretty fair price, in my opinion. Heck, if I’m the M’s, I’m trying to get someone like Neshek tossed in as well.

  8. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 6, 2010 at 8:49 AM

    How stupid would a deal like this make Ruben Amaro, Jr. look? He gave away Lee for a full season, for 3 prospects outside the top 90 of Baseball America at the time the trade was made. Only Aumont was ranked in the top 100, at 96 I believe. I will never change my opinion that the Cliff Lee trade was one of the 10 worst trades in baseball history. If you believe Ruben(which I don’t) and think it was to “restock the farm system” then it may actually go down as one of the 3 worst trades in baseball history. However, since money HAD to be a part of the issue(even though Amaro and Montgomery deny that it was) I’ll cut Amaro some slack and make it one of the 10 worst trades.

  9. john pileggi - Jul 6, 2010 at 11:07 AM

    Come on, Mets! Think of something creative!! Go get Lee!

  10. yefrem - Jul 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM

    wow, m’s turn down 2 top 100 prospects for a ghost starter. i wonder how long they will wait? its like the m’s have hit 4 straight blackjacks in lee’s past 4 starts, but bearing down to july 31 a blackjack only pays 1:1

  11. Professor Dave - Jul 6, 2010 at 10:51 PM

    It’s hard to think that a better prospect deal will be offered to them. If they are still “nowhere close,” then the report was smoke.

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