Comments on: UPDATE: Cliff Lee to the Yankees "is just about done"

By: Mark B

Mark B — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:55:40 +0000

Gator, you’re an Oaf

By: Ditto65

Ditto65 — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:31:46 +0000

“…iv never even heard of this Montero guy so he cant be that good…”
per the Seattle PI:
He’s a big 6-foot-4, 225-pound catcher, though some feel he’ll ultimately wind up as a first baseman.
For the Mariners, what matters most is the big bat and whether Montero is as good as projected by Baseball America, which rated him the fourth-best prospect in baseball coming into this season behind the impressive threesome of Jason Heyward, Steven Strasburg and Mike Stanton. all making big-league waves already.

By: bigtrav425

bigtrav425 — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:17:52 +0000

Has to be nice to pretty much BUY world Series rings!..altho im not sure if the Yanks have enough to get Lee…iv never even heard of this Montero guy so he cant be that good…they have to be gettin Joba/Hughes back in this deal if it happens…Another thing that pisses me of majorly is that teams complain bout the Yanks and Sox buying up players but then they continue to trade with them to help them out! Here is a idea…STOP trading and doing deals with them to help them out…TARDS!

By: Ditto65

Ditto65 — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 14:16:18 +0000

The Rangers are for sale – know anybody richer than Steinbrenner?
BTW – I am sure there are already owners with more money than George. They just choose to NOT SPEND.
Oh, and as already mentioned, George is retired.

By: Don in Dallas

Don in Dallas — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:42:04 +0000

Gee, Pete, where have you been the past several years? George S. is as “out of it” as you are. The Yankke owners at least spend their money and attention on trying to win – owners like the Dodgers McCourt like to line their buddies pockets with charity contributions. And as soon as the small market teams spend all their revenue sharing money on players salaries, I’ll start to agree with you. The Twins have as good a package as the Yankees but they appear to be satisfied with just winning the division.

By: YawnFlorio

YawnFlorio — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:20:27 +0000

WAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

By: YawnFlorio

YawnFlorio — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:12:04 +0000

All of that when one word would have sufficed?
WAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH

By: Pete leary

Pete leary — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:08:44 +0000

The PIGS are going to the trough again!Steinbrenner is a hideous human being and a hog personified!No wonder this team is the most reviled team in all the sports world. Its no sport any longer. The Yankees will be the ruination of baseball.Some day, someone, with more money than GREEDY GEORGE, will screw him to the wall. What goes around, comes around . I hate the man. He has ade it impossible for small market teams to compete. This aided and abetted by a no gonad Commissioner who allows these greedy bums make trades that are bad for baseball. Shame on the BULLY Yankees and the listless Mariners who are complicit in a stinkbomb of a trade that has made a joke of the game.May Steinbrenner and his money burn in HELL!

By: Utley's hair

Utley's hair — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 13:04:02 +0000

I vote for “detest.” But the Wankers are driving up the sales of beer and liquor in the area.

By: Md23Rewls

Md23Rewls — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:50:23 +0000

Do the Yankees “need” another starting pitcher? By the numbers, no. The rotation is fine. They do play in the toughest division in baseball, though, and you’re going to have one team out of Tampa/New York/Boston looking out at the end–not to mention the possibility the wild card might not even come from the East. Boston looks like it’s on the slide, but it’s not like the Yankees are eight games ahead of everybody and trading for Lee. They’re in the middle of a pennant race. You do what you have to do. The Mets could have made this trade, the Twins could have made this trade, any of these teams could have, but they held back on their prospects.

By: Jonny5

Jonny5 — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 12:44:21 +0000

Why doesn’t anyone think pitching will move to Seattle from NY? You do know Seattle wil need to fill the spot Lee vacates, right? So which “other pitcher” goes to Seattle with your star future prospect? They will surely want a pen arm at the least.

By: DualLeads

DualLeads — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:27:32 +0000

So this morning it’s the Yankees. Tune in tomorrow – I think it’s the Brewer’s turn.

By: Jonny5

Jonny5 — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:24:34 +0000

This is why you either have to love (fans only), or hate (everyone else) the Yankees.

By: SabathiaWouldBeGoodAtTheEigthToo

SabathiaWouldBeGoodAtTheEigthToo — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:17:21 +0000

I say either Hughes to the pen, or trade Javy for a DH/3B who can help moer than Pena when Arod needs a day off. Or they can trade Javy to the Phils for Werth for a 4 man OF/DH rotation.
Javy to Toronto for Bautista? The Jays would get better draft picks for type A Javy than for Type b Bautista…I’m just saying…

By: Utley's hair

Utley's hair — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:07:54 +0000

How often is it that you see multiple championships in two pro sports bought within 24 hours? Damn.
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Ruben, I once said that the Lee debacle would be your watershed moment with the notoriously vocal Phightins phans: either you would be looked at as a genius…or you would be ridden out of town on a rail. Well, that rail is all greased up and ready to go. Second only to costing the Phils a damn near certain WS appearance, this deal has all but cinched a title for another team, and it’s the YANKERS, too!!! As if they needed that one extra credit card.

By: Simon DelMonte

Simon DelMonte — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 11:00:23 +0000

Further further thoughts: as persecuted as I feel, the Mets just weren’t willing to part with the prospects needed. So it’s not really like the Yanks are stealing Lee from Queens. It just feels that way.
And maybe, just maybe, seeing a team trying to stick with its prospects and plan for the long haul when it doesn’t have a great farm system is a smarter thing to do than renting a pitcher for three months. It will sting to see the Yanks go deep into October while the Mets sit home or bow out early – as of now, the Mets are still in position to make the playoffs, so I will be optimistic – but if Meija and Thole really pan out, it might be worth patience and suffering.

By: lardin

lardin — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:59:49 +0000

Which rules are you referring to? All the teams in Major League baseball play by the same rules. You must be referring to the Yankees willingness to spend more money or trade young players. Or are you referring to there win now attitude? Any team in baseball can make a TRADE for Cliff Lee. This is not the Yankees giving him a massive contract, that will happen in November. The Yankees are giving up their number one prospect plus others to have Cliff Lee for three months. Is this the rich getting richer? Absolutely… But for a team whose mission statement is to win the world series every year, this is Standard Operating Procedure.

By: Chris Fiorentino

Chris Fiorentino — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:57:34 +0000

The 2010 Baseball Season is officially over. Why play the rest of the season? To root for injuries? Because that is the only way the Yankees do not win the WS again.

By: YankeesfanLen

YankeesfanLen — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:56:16 +0000

Definitely.
Yankees tickets and accompaniments: $600
6 man Gold Star starter rotation: $57 million
Sending non-Universe fans into apoplectic state: Priceless

By: YankeesfanLen

YankeesfanLen — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:46:48 +0000

Still see Andy coming back next year, think Vazquez would be odd man out, too much invested in AJ and he has his security blanket in the form of Dave Eiland back.

By: BigBBFan

BigBBFan — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:42:08 +0000

IF they sign Lee it would make sense to move Hughes to the bullpen just for the rest of this year. He was lights out coming in from the bullpen last year. The rumors are strong that Andy will ride off into the sunset after this year. If so Hughes moves back to starter next year.
This move would also solve the innings pitched limitation on Hughes for this year.

By: 27xchamps

27xchamps — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:41:45 +0000

would be nice!!

By: nps6724

nps6724 — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:29:07 +0000

"And this IS a trade -- it's not the Yankees opening their wallet. They are offering a package, and if that package is better than what Minnesota or the Mets or the Red Sox are willing to come up with, too bad. If the Twins want him that bad, throw in a few extra prospects and Seattle will trade him to the Twins. If you have the wherewithal to get a player, and you don't get him and the Yankees do, you can't whine about it. It just means you didn't want him enough. "

Personally, as a Braves fan I don't care where Lee goes so long as it isn't Philly or the Mets. But you're naive if you think this isn't "the Yankees opening their wallet". The trade on its own may not be, but what has lead up to it and what will happen after WILL be.

They can afford to trade away their top hitting prospect because they can sign any hitter they want no matter the cost. They can trade for any "rental" player because they can afford to sign him to the biggest contract once they become a FA (or to a huge extension after the trade).

When you can afford to play by rules at a level no one else can, you can do things like trade away top prospects without worrying about how that may hinder your club in the future because you can just spend even more money to replace that missing piece.

It has nothing to do with not wanting him enough. It's short-term vs. long-term. For most every team, trading away top prospects for a "rental" means short-term success and a worse long-term situation. This isn't true for the Yankees.

By: geoknows

geoknows — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:26:48 +0000

Nevermind. I see now that Craig addressed Sherman’s credibility in another post.

By: charly

charly — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:25:56 +0000

this would be a great move for the yankees. as to which starter to “demote” – burnett and vasquez would be prime choices. of the two – send burnett to minors for working vacation. his preponderance of hit batters and balls in the dirt tell me he’s tired and needs to get his mojo back.
as to returning hughes to the bullpen – bad idea. also a bad idea is the “joba rules” being applied to hughes. you’ve got him – flaunt him.
during last night’s game in seattle – comment was made regarding pettitte’s age. he pitched a good game (though his fielding of that bunt left a whole lot to be desired) but is retirement looming in his future?

By: Craig Calcaterra

Craig Calcaterra — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:24:06 +0000

Sherman is really bad about just sort of inventing scenarios about could happen, but he always makes it clear that he’s just speculating, not that he’s saying something will happen. His actual reporting though — sources say this and that — is pretty damn good from what I can tell. I couldn’t find anyone this morning — including hardcore New York sports fans — who could recall a time when he has whiffed on something he actually reports (as opposed to analysis or speculation).

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:23:26 +0000

Len, sorry to hear that. But you will be able to dance a jig on the left foot, right?

By: Old Gator

Old Gator — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:22:16 +0000

And don’t skimp on the pah-tay….

By: geoknows

geoknows — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:21:20 +0000

I don’t live in NY, nor do I read Sherman quite enough to be sure, but it strikes me that a lot of things he writes constitute wishful thinking. Am I right, or is he more highly respected than my perception of him?

By: nps6724

nps6724 — Fri, 09 Jul 2010 10:00:25 +0000

Yes, it's very difficult to spend someone else's money on and trade away top prospects for the best players in the game without having to worry about the future because you can just spend more money on more of the best players later on.

Seriously, his job is as difficult as Paris Hilton walking into any store in the world, pointing at objects and declaring "I want that, that, and that. 10 of each."