Comments on: Is Jamie Moyer a Hall of Famer?

By: Bill@TDS

Bill@TDS — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 15:20:24 +0000

he has never been in the top best 20 pitchers in baseball during his what 20 plus yrs? i could go on and on..
Oh, anybody can go on and on if they don’t have to worry whether anything they’re saying is true. Moyer had several years that were easily top 20.
I don’t think he’s a Hall of Famer either, but he did have that.

By: john j pileggi

john j pileggi — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:01:42 +0000

Moyer probably falles into the category of “terrific player”, but not Hall of Famer. Longevity in and of itself is an achievement, and his numbers and positive impact on his team are notable. A Hall of Famer is someone who dominates at his position, or who significantly contributes to a team(s)’ championship run more than once. Robin Yount and Paul Molitor are those kind of guys. Mr. Moyer is deserving of a great deal of praise and honors, but not the Hall of Fame. If he outs together an incredible run the next two years of 20+ wins, the analysis changes.

By: Ditto65

Ditto65 — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:58:22 +0000

If he had been doing these things over the last 20 some odd years – yes. One time – no.
Stay Classy, HBT.

By: gedge

gedge — Fri, 16 Jul 2010 00:32:56 +0000

Has he ever even been the best pitcher on his own team? He’s been an average left hander who has lasted a long time. What next, Jesse Orosco in the hall too because he could throw a ball when he was old?

By: Michael C

Michael C — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:29:50 +0000

Let’s say the Phillies make it to the World Series and he pitches an 8 inning shutout in a crucial 7th game? Or due to an injury has to come out of the pen two days after pitching–does that change anyone’s opinion?

By: mrfloydpink

mrfloydpink — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 19:15:53 +0000

1. As we have just been reminded, the bar for being selected to the All-Star game is not all that high. Moyer has been an All-Star once.
2. Moyer has appeared in the Cy Young balloting three times, with 4th place his highest finish.
3. Moyer has a career ERA+ of 105.
Thanks for playing, Jamie.

By: Cantankerous

Cantankerous — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 18:13:19 +0000

Sadly, I can see sort of a Jack Morris-type scenario where he gets enough votes the first few years to stick around and then people start building a case to justify their votes, increasing his totals every year until he’s voted in his 14th or 15th year of eligibility.

By: bigtrav425

bigtrav425 — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:58:48 +0000

Not even close!…..he has never been in the top best 20 pitchers in baseball during his what 20 plus yrs? i could go on and on..has he been solid? Yes.more so later in his career but never early on.Good,solid Long career and a helluva guy! Wish there was more like him in the sports world but a Hall of Famer,sorry Jaimie not at all

By: DualLeads

DualLeads — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:38:55 +0000

He’s worthy for it along the same guidelines in which Pete Rose isn’t: Moyer had (has) a helluva great overall career, and has great character to boot.
This should be a no-brainer.

By: Steve-0

Steve-0 — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:06:16 +0000

If he manages to hang around and be relatively effective until the age of 50 and as a result ends up with 300 wins he probably should get in for doing something that nobody in the history of Major League Baseball has ever done before. There has never been a player who has played until the age of 50 that wasn’t a publicity stunt and because of how unique it would be he would probably get bonus points for it. Should be interesting to see if he can outlast father time.

By: ultimatecardinalwarrior

ultimatecardinalwarrior — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:54:24 +0000

Craig I think you should have a vote. Your opinion is worth way more than someone like say Jay Mariotti (to use a punching bag as an example).

By: Jonny5

Jonny5 — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:42:23 +0000

As someone else said before me. He belongs in the Hall of Mediocre Longevity. As of now, but……
If he hits 300 wins? By that time all the people who vote for these kinda things will be totally in love with him as he’ll be pumping that arm until he’s over 50, and he will at least get close to getting in. Do I think he’ll get to 300? No. I really hope he does though, “i’m rooting fer the old coot” (Charlie Manuel)

By: andrewlw

andrewlw — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:34:10 +0000

If he had been successful in his 20′s then sure. Yes he has the longevity but outside of his age 25 season he really wasn’t good until 30.
So he’s been pretty good if unspectacular from 30-47, if he had been pretty good but unspectacular from 20-37 no one would think twice about him.
That being said if he does manage to stick around for a few more years and be successful I would think he deserves heavy consideration but not automatic acceptance.

By: nps6724

nps6724 — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:30:30 +0000

Except he isn’t as good as he was 10 years ago and 10 years ago he was only above-average. Has there ever been a point in Moyer’s career where he was one of the 15 best pitchers in baseball for more than a season here or there? No.

By: BleedGreen

BleedGreen — Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:23:16 +0000

I say he absolutely is a hall of famer. anyone that sticks around that long, and is essentially just as good today as he was 10+ years ago, is a hall of famer.