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Ed Wade is asking for way, way too much for Oswalt

Jul 23, 2010, 9:59 AM EDT

If we’re going to criticize anyone in the greater Roy Oswalt discussion for having unreasonable demands, Oswalt shouldn’t be at the top of the list. Astros’ GM Ed Wade should.  Derrick Goold reports on Houston’s demands:

According to a National League executive, the Astros have said
the package must include two top prospects, a third minor-league
player, and a young player who is “major-league ready.”

Which is totally ridiculous. Such a return would even be ridiculous if the Astros were eating a ton of salary, which they aren’t at all willing to do.

I understand that Ed Wade wants to get a load in return, but there are enough difficulties involved with trading Roy Oswalt that his unreasonable demands aren’t helping the situation.

Given the money and the lack of leverage involved, I think Wade would be lucky to get a single top prospect and some other serviceable player, be it a minor leaguer or someone who is “major league ready.”

  1. Philip P - Jul 23, 2010 at 10:06 AM

    Rightly or wrongly, the Astros refuse to blow up their roster and start over. As such, they would be just as happy to keep Oswalt the next year & a half and one can’t even rule out their picking up the 2012 option. It was never their idea to move Oswalt, which explains the high demands, so high that between Astros management and Oswalt’s inflexibility, I can’t see how he gets traded to anyone. Perhaps in the offseason both parties will revisit the situation but right now I say Oswalt stays put and only a few contenders like the Cards and Phils will be upset while Oswalt and the Stros somehow enjoy the status quo.

  2. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 23, 2010 at 10:08 AM

    If he’s asking for all that from the Cardinals, I don’t think it is too much. He obviously doesn’t want to trade him within the division. I bet he had a deal worked out with Philly, for alot less than that, and Oswalt pussied out because he doesn’t want to play here, so he threw in the 2012 option being picked up. But all of a sudden, he’ll be a little more flexible with St. Louis? Puh-leeze. Wade might as well keep Oswalt rather than give him away, within the division. I read the Cardinals were offering John Jay and another guy off their current roster and wouldn’t give up their top prospect? Are you kidding me?

  3. Jonny5 - Jul 23, 2010 at 10:12 AM

    Wow, no wonder Haren is looking more attractive to these clubs.

  4. YankeesfanLen - Jul 23, 2010 at 10:21 AM

    Didn’t Cliff Lee go (within the division) for less than this?

  5. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 23, 2010 at 10:52 AM

    Yeah, but Cliff Lee wasn’t the face of the Mariners, wasn’t locked up for at least one more year, and wasn’t BELOVED by his team. Apples and Oranges comparison.

  6. Jeff O - Jul 23, 2010 at 11:13 AM

    Who gives a crap if he’s “beloved” by his team?
    The Astros absolutely have to trade Oswalt and get the best deal possible, or they will continue to be bottom feeders for a long time. This is their chance to do something smart, and get this team on some semblance of a right track. And if the Cardinals are the team that offers the best deal, go for it. Hopefully they trade anyone else that can pull in decent prospects.
    At the moment, there is no hope for the Astros future. They are a disgusting franchise. I hope they do something right before the month ends.
    Trading within the division is absolutely fine in this situation. Because even if Ed Wade pulls off an amazing deal, they still won’t be relevant for several years. Definitely not while Oswalt would be in a Cardinals uniform.

  7. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 23, 2010 at 11:24 AM

    Jeff, I disagree. You can’t make a deal just to make it. If the Cardinals won’t pony up either the prospects or the cash, why bother making the deal? Ed Wade has already screwed the pooch in trading Scott Rolen and Curt Schilling for absolutely nothing. I don’t think he is going to do it once again…although, I wouldn’t put it past him.

  8. Jeff O - Jul 23, 2010 at 11:34 AM

    I agree that he shouldn’t make a deal if the return is not good enough. And if he’s really looking for the deal mentioned in the article, it’s simply not gonna happen. If he’s willing to be realistic, I’m positive he can make something work.

  9. Paper Lions - Jul 23, 2010 at 12:00 PM

    Wade can get prospects OR he can get salary relief. He can’t expect both. Oswalt is getting old and doesn’t have the stuff he had 4 years ago, though he is still a quality pitcher. His salary isn’t a great deal, it’s about right. So if a team is taking on that salary, they shouldn’t be expected to pony up quality prospects as well…you can’t expect a team to pay for a guy like Oswalt twice, once with prospects and once with salary. Therefore, if the Astros aren’t willing to eat Oswalt’s salary, they shouldn’t expect much in return.
    Add in the fact that Oswalt has won the right to control his trade destination, and the Astros don’t have any leverage. If Oswalt says he prefers to go to StL, why shouldn’t the Cardinals use that leverage? It appears that the Astros have two choices, keep Oswalt or trade him for marginal prospects and some salary relief. They can keep pushing for option 3, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it never materializes. Especially because many teams that are interested have so much future money already locked up in high priced players.

  10. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 23, 2010 at 1:38 PM

    I agree Paper Lions…and that’s why I said why should Ed Wade even bother? If he doesn’t get exactly what he wants, keep him and suffer through another season with a guy who has an ERA in the low 3’s instead of middling prospects and/or some minor salary relief. Everybody says Oswalt is overpaid, but look at what Tim Hudson got from the Braves…he’s 35, and got a 3 year/$28 million contract coming off surgery that cost him a year and a half…and he was a notch below Oswalt. Why is 2 years/$32 million for a younger, better pitcher like Oswalt, who for all his “injury problems” has started 30 or more games for 7 straight years???

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