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Rumor: Ted Lilly to the Phillies for J.A. Happ

Jul 28, 2010, 4:59 PM EDT

UPDATE: Not so fast.  I had missed this, but last week Jon Paul Morosi reported that Ted Lilly’s 10-team no-trade clause includes the Phillies. Whether he’s more adamant about not going to Philly than Roy Oswalt seems to be is an open question, but it’s not like this would be a slam dunk or anything.

4:59 P.M.: Ed Price from FanHouse has that one. He notes that it’s “not confirmed,” but that’s what makes it a rumor, right? Someone’s talking about it?

Regardless of how true it is, this seems to make so much more sense to me than the Oswalt-to-Philly rumors.  Lilly comes with no big salary obligations and nowhere near the no-trade hurdles that Oswalt has (Lilly has limited no-trade protection; there have been no reports of which teams he’d reject that I can recall). As for performance, yes, there’s a falloff from Oswalt to Lilly. But not a tremendous one, and certainly not one that offsets the far easier-to-do deal that a Lilly trade would represent.

Ken Rosenthal reports that the Dodgers and Twins have inquired about Lilly. The Mets have been talked about before as well, but Rosenthal says they are “waiting on direction from above.”  Which means that Omar Minaya, as is almost always the case, is being told what to do by the Wilpons.

How uplifting for Mets fans!

  1. Philip P - Jul 28, 2010 at 5:09 PM

    Jayson Stark of ESPN has already stated that Happ could have been had for Oswalt or Haren, since each could have been controlled for 1-2 years. No way they trade Happ for a Rental like Lilly.

  2. Utley's hair - Jul 28, 2010 at 5:16 PM

    Sadly, it IS Rube, so nothing is a definite no.

  3. geoknows - Jul 28, 2010 at 5:19 PM

    Lilly comes with no big salary obligations? He makes $13 million this year, so is still owed about $4.5 million for the rest of the season. That seems pretty big to me. Plus he’s a rental, as opposed to Happ, who’s cheap and under control for several more years. Can’t see why you think this makes sense, unless you’re just looking at it from the Cubs standpoint.

  4. BigPhil - Jul 28, 2010 at 5:52 PM

    Yes, agreed with Philip P (nice name) and geoknows. Happ is a seviceable middle of rotation guy, or back of rotation if you’re pessimistic. Plus he’s cheap and controlled for a few years. Trading up outright for Lilly makes no sense. He’s old and a rental. Phillies have had injury issues, which comes with the territory if you’re an old team. This just compounds that. Plus, I don’t think Lilly is a difference maker for the Phillies (especially if you subtract Happ from the rotation) in a year where the Braves are still 3.5 games out (and this is after a 6-0 stretch by the Phillies) and still 2.5 games behind the wildcard.
    If true, this is just another sign that Ruben sucks.

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