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Report: The Astros would send the Phillies $12 million in the Oswalt deal

Jul 29, 2010, 11:30 AM EDT

Earlier today we’d heard chatter that the Astros would be sending $8 million to the Phillies in the Roy Oswalt deal. That, combined with a couple of decent but not really high-ceiling prospects seems like a good deal for the Phillies, but it may be even better than that. Jayson Stark is now saying that $12 million would be coming back.

I can only assume that means that Philly has agreed to pick up Oswalt’s option and they’re asking for the vast majority of it to be subsidized by Houston.  It could also mean, however, that the brand of prospect coming back is better than we thought before.

Jonathan Singleton maybe? Like Matt Rizzotti, he’s a 1B/DH. Unlike Rizzotti he’s young and projectable. Specifically, he’s 18 and is hitting .312/.418/.526 at A-ball.

If Singleton is in this deal, it’s way, way better for the Astros, money or no money.

  1. CJ - Jul 29, 2010 at 11:42 AM

    If Singleton and Happ are in this deal, I’ll cry, lol.

  2. BigPhil - Jul 29, 2010 at 11:42 AM

    All the Phillies’ moves are aimed for the near-term. That makes sense since our window is short (3 years max). But the Phillies are an old team, and they keep adding older players. That obviously increases the risk of injuries (the Phills have been hit hard by the injury bug this year) and steep performance declines (see Raul Ibanez). Do you think Ruben overvalues older but established players, or is that just the cost of doing business for a team that’s in contention?

  3. Hawkeye - Jul 29, 2010 at 11:43 AM

    If Singleton is in the deal then the Phils shouldn’t make it.

  4. Chris Fiorentino - Jul 29, 2010 at 11:48 AM

    The Phillies, while I will not call them “cheap”, are valuing the money more than the prospects right now. That’s what they did in the Cliff Lee deal…while they continue to say it wasn’t about the money, it is clear that they didn’t want this year’s payroll to be $150, which it would have been had they kept Lee. They want all this extra cash from the Astros so they can say that next years payroll, with the money that came with the Oswalt deal, is going to remain at $140. So they are willing to “sell” a couple higher-end prospects to make it work. Again, I can’t call them “cheap” with the 4th highest payroll. But they are sacrificing today(with the Cliff Lee trade) and the future(with getting extra cash for better prospects) by trying to stick to this stupid arbitrary $140 million self-imposed salary cap.

  5. geoknows - Jul 29, 2010 at 11:51 AM

    Some sources are saying that Singleton is in the deal (Jayson Stark, Todd Zolecki), others (Ken Rosenthal) say no. Guess we’ll just have to wait and see.

  6. walk - Jul 29, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    I seriously hope happ is not in this deal. At this point he has more games, and probably wins in him than oswalt.

  7. Jonny5 - Jul 29, 2010 at 12:00 PM

    Singleton is not going to help the Phills anytime soon with Howard tied up until he retires folks. Might as well get a much needed ace now while the run to the playoffs is on shaky ground. He will be what the Phills need down the stretch here. That and some pen arms. With Oswalt added they probably will take the NL east. Sorry Craig, but I just had to add that. It’s do or die time. Now let’s look at some relief pitchers.

  8. ekt8750 - Jul 29, 2010 at 12:06 PM

    What are people whining about losing Singleton for? He’s a 1st baseman and last time I checked Ryan Howard’s our 1st baseman for life. Singleton can’t play any other position so what the hell’s the point of keeping him in our system? If Ed Wade wants him, let him have him.

  9. Old Gator - Jul 29, 2010 at 12:06 PM


  10. CJ - Jul 29, 2010 at 12:08 PM

    It’s possible Singleton could be moved to the outfield in the future a la Adam Dunn in the past. Sure, he’d probably be a defensive liability out there, but his bat would more than make up for it. In interleague or the Series, he could be moved to DH.
    Just cuz we have Ryan Howard doesn’t mean we should give up on this guy. Yeah, we signed Howard to a huge deal, but do the math, Howard isn’t getting any younger, and this kid is only 18. By the time he’s ready and in his prime, Howard’s contract might well be up, and he can move over to first.
    Happ and Singleton is a very, very steep price. If that is the real deal that’s going to happen, I’d rather Roy chicken out.

  11. CJ - Jul 29, 2010 at 12:32 PM

    Dude Singleton’s a monster at just 18. Even if Howard’s our 1B “for life”, he’ll be ready to keel over by the time this kid is ready for the show.

  12. Jonny5 - Jul 29, 2010 at 12:32 PM

    While you have a very valid point, you also have to look at how many chances the phills will have to replace Singleton whom they don’t really need now, as compared to replacing a Roy Oswalt whom they do need right now. Yeah maybe they don’t need an Oswalt, but go to the WS with one Ace again and you know how that’ll turn out. Look at last season. I hate giving up guys who look as good as he does as much as the next guy, but the goal is to win rings, as many as possible and keeping Singleton isn’t going to do it right now. And the Phills will never put a guy like Singleton in the OF. Not as long as they keep packing CBP every game. The Nats only did it with Dunn because they kinda had to. And is Happ still the Happ we saw last season? I don’t think he is, or he’d be pitching. A mild strain of your forearm shouldn’t take this long to heal. He’s a flip of the coin right now.

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