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Yet Johnny Cueto continues to walk the streets, a free man

Aug 20, 2010, 2:30 PM EDT

Here’s a pressing and important debate in today’s Post-Dispatch that in no way is designed to enflame the passions of Cardinals fans angry at Johnny Cueto. The headline: “LaRue’s out, Cueto’s in: Is that fair?”

While the contours of the actual debate which follow are reasonable enough, the headline just slays me. The obvious implication being that a player’s punishment in cases like Cueto’s should match the injuries suffered by their victims and if you disagree, well, you had better explain yourself.

I say we just go one step further and make things totally fair. Jason LaRue is out for the season with concussion?  Hold Cueto down and beat him in the head until he too is concussed.

Like all rules, baseball’s new “eye-for-an-eye” discipline system would have its tough cases — who among us would have felt comfortable putting Carl Mays to death for his transgression? — but justice must be firm and swift in such matters if fairness is to be ensured.

  1. Trevor B - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:07 PM

    You have to wonder how much of LaRue out for the season is PR on the Cardinals part (hear me out).

    LaRue isn’t exactly a game maker and the Cardinals have a good catching prospect in Bryan Anderson. The Cards have been itching to get this kid some MLB plate appearances, here is his chance. Cueto, on the other hand, is a difference maker on the rival Reds team. Could it be worth a gamble of keeping a non-playmaker out the season, giving your prospect a chance in hopes of maybe a larger suspension for Cueto? I’d say so because really it doesn’t hurt the Cards much (or help much) to keep LaRue out for the season for his concussion. Even if keeping LaRue out for the season has nothing to do with the Reds, the Cards might just be wanting to give Anderson that chance, and this just gives LaRue an early winter vacation to rest his head more.

    Just some food for thought, no need to blow it out of proportion, twist words or go off the walls about it.

  2. prfeeney - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM

    More importantly, I think it’s ludacris that Johnny Cueto gets to play and WE ARE STUCK WITH PEDRO FELIZ!!!

  3. Kiwicricket - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:10 PM

    I always felt in my heart Johnson deserved to have a ball thrown at him for murdering that bird

  4. Chris Fiorentino - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:17 PM

    Cueto was backed against the netting and probably feared for his back being broken so he kicked his way out of the pile. Nothing wrong with it from what I saw. Screw Carpenter and LaRue…they should be pissed at their fat-assed catcher who should have sat behind the plate and kept his big fat mouth shut.

  5. Wooden U Lykteneau - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:18 PM

    FYI, Craig: Roy Chapman was known to both crowd and hang over the plate. I believe the term is “comparative negligence.”

  6. scatterbrian - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:19 PM

    Don’t they have a rule in hockey where, if you injure another player in a fight, you are out as long as the player you injured. Or is my old man making stuff up again?

  7. Paper Lions - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:28 PM

    Congratulations on the most ill-informed and asinine comment of the day.

  8. RedsDouche - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:38 PM

    I pretty much said this same thing in the last post about Cueto and LaRue and I got blasted for it.

  9. El Bravo - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:41 PM

    I agree assuming the bird’s kin gets to throw the ball.

  10. Old Gator - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:48 PM

    “Are there any…women here?”
    (from Monty Python’s The Life of Brian)

  11. okobojicat - Aug 20, 2010 at 3:49 PM


  12. mashoaf - Aug 20, 2010 at 4:08 PM

    LaRue needs to man up. He was in a huge fight. He knew exactly what he was doing… trying to hit someone which could have injured someone for the season with a concusion. Oh well LaRue got hit in the head and now he is out. Next time when there is a fight he will think twice about trying to throw down.

  13. Kiwicricket - Aug 20, 2010 at 4:09 PM

    Motion passed

  14. Kiwicricket - Aug 20, 2010 at 4:13 PM

    The bird lived alone and only had an elderly grandmother, so her throwing the ball is unrealistic.

  15. phlockar - Aug 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM

    I’m sure in the last matchup this year between us and the Cards that Cueto will pitch one of the games and get beaned big time. That doesn’t justify that fact that LaRue is out for the year but that’s the way it is.

  16. MVD - Aug 20, 2010 at 5:02 PM

    Not our fault LaRue is a pussy. Why do you think we let you little bitch Cardinals have him in the first place?

  17. BigPhil - Aug 20, 2010 at 5:07 PM

    Right. A fight’s a fight. We’re gonna try to rule what’s an appropriate injury in a fight and what’s not, and what’s an appropriate way to conduct yourself in a melee? Seems ridiculous to me. Is it unfair? Yes, but bfd.

  18. Loren - Aug 20, 2010 at 5:24 PM

    I think it would be tough to get LaRue to play along with that scheme: “OK, just pretend you’re concussion symptoms aren’t going away so we can keep your light-hitting butt off the field and maybe get Cueto suspended for another day or two.”

  19. Cougar Hunter - Aug 20, 2010 at 5:47 PM

    This is laughable. I guess these are the things you focus on when you can’t win.

  20. Nick C - Aug 20, 2010 at 5:58 PM

    Typical Reds fan bs. MLB is not going to reopen the discipline and everyone with any brain knows that. Larue is valued by the coaching staff because he calls a good game, is good at blocking balls in the dirt and he has a really good throwing arm. These are the qualities of a good ML backup catcher. I cannot believe the excuses being thrown around by Reds apologists trying to justify Cueto’s cowardly actions. Carpenter was also pinned in a worse position than Cueto and he didn’t start kicking like a little b–ch. Furthermore, Cueto was pinned by his own teammates not Cardinals players. Finally, if you watch the video you see Cueto, Hernandez and Gomes run around behind the crowd to try and take shots at Carpenter from behind. Thus it is his own damn fault that he ended up where he did. The fact is Cueto is a wussy and he knew exactly what he was doing.

  21. Nick C - Aug 20, 2010 at 6:00 PM

    You sir are a complete idiot. Cueto should be prosecuted for his use of a weapon. It has happened to hockey players who use their sticks and it should have happened to Cueto for using his spikes. Despicable and cowardly.

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