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Comment of the Day: Sabathia and Price don't know how to win

Sep 14, 2010, 9:36 AM EST

Reader That Guy makes a comment that will cause Cy Young voters to blow a gasket:

It’s too bad niether Price nor Sabathia’s preformance of eight-inning shutout ball count towards the Cy Young race, because neither got a decision. They both pitched well, but neither of them knew how to win last night.

Hey, if you’re going to hold awesome, no-win performances against Felix Hernandez . . .

  1. BC - Sep 14, 2010 at 10:01 AM

    Look at it this way… they cancelled each other out. If they’re 1-2 in the race (or 2-3 or 1-3 or whatever) last night was a wash.
    You do have to figure that whichever team wins the AL East will give a little nudge to their guy winning the Cy though.

  2. Simon DelMonte - Sep 14, 2010 at 10:06 AM

    Yes. The truly great pitchers are so good they generate negative runs on nights their own teams aren’t hitting. Kind of like the “negative energy” Stephen Hawking invokes when talking about time travel.

  3. murd - Sep 14, 2010 at 10:41 AM

    I can’t think of any way in which this comment makes sense. What more can a pitcher do than shutout the other team? Maybe in the NL this guy could be pissed that one of them didn’t go yard, but c’mon.

  4. geoknows - Sep 14, 2010 at 10:51 AM

    murd, don’t you know sarcasm when you see it?

  5. Craig Calcaterra - Sep 14, 2010 at 10:51 AM

    Note the sarcasm. Felix Hernandez has been killing the other team all year but not getting wins because of no run support. Many CY Young voters will hold his lack of wins against him. They won’t, however, knock Sabathia and Price for not winning last night. Nor should they.

  6. ThatGuy - Sep 14, 2010 at 10:56 AM

    It was indeed sarcasim… I thought it was pretty obvious

  7. Chipmaker - Sep 14, 2010 at 11:07 AM

    Perhaps the 2010 AL CYA voters will decide to give Rivera a lifetime achievement Cy this year, subverting all the Sabathia-Hernandez-Price discussion and preventing them from exploding their own heads (which will happen if Hernandez wins, no matter how deserving he is).

  8. murd - Sep 14, 2010 at 11:13 AM

    I apologize. Seems like Craig’s comments of the day are usually something he’s making fun of or disagreeing with, so I assumed it was a serious comment. It’s very obvious now, should have seen it the first time. Sorry for sounding so stupid.

  9. Aarcraft - Sep 14, 2010 at 11:32 AM

    We all know that Steve Carlton, aka a REAL PITCHER, would have finished what he started just to get the w, even if it meant throwing 200 plus pitches.

  10. Aarcraft - Sep 14, 2010 at 11:39 AM

    We all know Steve Carlton, aka, a REAL PITCHER, would have finished what he started just to get the W, even if it meant throwing 200+ pitches.

  11. Md23Rewls - Sep 14, 2010 at 12:52 PM

    How many ways can this issue really be sliced? Yes, Hernandez deserves the award more than Sabathia, but the amount of ‘wins don’t matter!’ and ‘playing on a good team doesn’t matter!’ rhetoric is getting a little over the top. I honestly think that it’s not a big deal if wins or team success are factored in. Should they be the deciding factor or the overriding factor? Certainly not. But to act like the games that Felix Hernandez pitches in carry the same weight as the ones Sabathia pitches in strikes me as silly. The Mariners haven’t played in a meaningful game in four months. The Yankees, on the other hand, have been playing for a playoff spot, and when that became pretty set, they were playing for home field in the AL. By virtue of the fact that the Yankees are a contender, Sabathia’s wins do matter more than Hernandez’s do. Every time he takes the mound he has the ability to directly impact the Yankees’ potential playoff standing. Again, Hernandez deserves the award, and I don’t think he should be penalized for being on a bad team, but I also don’t think it’s absurd that somebody might consider team success in the whole equation.

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