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	<title>Comments on: Yes, &#8220;they booed Santa Claus.&#8221; Here&#8217;s why.</title>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 May 2011 22:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Why are Philadelphia fans so obnoxious?...&lt;/strong&gt;

We&#039;re not. It seems that way because that is the mythology of Philly sports. Like any mythology, it&#039;s based on stories of incidents that are retold often and incorrectly. Santa Claus... Chucking batteries... The &quot;jail&quot; in Veteran Stadium... These s...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Why are Philadelphia fans so obnoxious?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>We&#8217;re not. It seems that way because that is the mythology of Philly sports. Like any mythology, it&#8217;s based on stories of incidents that are retold often and incorrectly. Santa Claus&#8230; Chucking batteries&#8230; The &#8220;jail&#8221; in Veteran Stadium&#8230; These s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Quora</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 16:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;strong&gt;Who are the most obnoxious professional football fans?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Shannon, thank you for taking the time to answer this question. However, you are one of the many people who like to regurgitate a story (Santa Clause) that you don&#039;t know much about. I encourage you to read this story from NBC about what really happen...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Who are the most obnoxious professional football fans?&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Shannon, thank you for taking the time to answer this question. However, you are one of the many people who like to regurgitate a story (Santa Clause) that you don&#8217;t know much about. I encourage you to read this story from NBC about what really happen&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nps6724</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nps6724]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must turn the TV off when anything about NY comes on then. Wasn’t it just 2 years ago Jets fans got in trouble due to their treatment of opposing fans in a certain section? Or when Mets fans threw batteries at John Rocker (which was admittedly pretty funny since he was a royal douchebag)? But as usual, Philly fans are playing the “woe is me” card. You want all the glory that comes with having a winning team in a large city but none of the downside. Just accept people are going to think poorly of your fanbase when stupid crap happens. Until that minority of fans stop doing these things, the opinion of Philly fans won’t improve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must turn the TV off when anything about NY comes on then. Wasn’t it just 2 years ago Jets fans got in trouble due to their treatment of opposing fans in a certain section? Or when Mets fans threw batteries at John Rocker (which was admittedly pretty funny since he was a royal douchebag)? But as usual, Philly fans are playing the “woe is me” card. You want all the glory that comes with having a winning team in a large city but none of the downside. Just accept people are going to think poorly of your fanbase when stupid crap happens. Until that minority of fans stop doing these things, the opinion of Philly fans won’t improve.</p>
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		<title>By: nps6724</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nps6724]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It wasn&#039;t supposed to be a response to you, it was to someone else.  Just clicked the wrong reply button.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It wasn&#8217;t supposed to be a response to you, it was to someone else.  Just clicked the wrong reply button.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:30:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here you are harping on this a day later, still trying to bait me into an argument.  I have no time for fool&#039;s errands like trying to sway the opinions of morons who don&#039;t even pay attention to what they said or wrote.  Get a life.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here you are harping on this a day later, still trying to bait me into an argument.  I have no time for fool&#8217;s errands like trying to sway the opinions of morons who don&#8217;t even pay attention to what they said or wrote.  Get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: BC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 14:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I recall, they cheered when Michael Irvin suffered the neck injury that ended his career.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I recall, they cheered when Michael Irvin suffered the neck injury that ended his career.</p>
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		<title>By: nps6724</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nps6724]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You must turn the TV off when anything about NY comes on then.  Wasn&#039;t it just 2 years ago Jets fans got in trouble due to their treatment of opposing fans in a certain section?  Or when Mets fans threw batteries at John Rocker (which was admittedly pretty funny since he was a royal douchebag)?  But as usual, Philly fans are playing the &quot;woe is me&quot; card.  You want all the glory that comes with having a winning team in a large city but none of the downside.  Just accept people are going to think poorly of your fanbase when stupid crap happens.  Until that minority of fans stop doing these things, the opinion of Philly fans won&#039;t improve.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must turn the TV off when anything about NY comes on then.  Wasn&#8217;t it just 2 years ago Jets fans got in trouble due to their treatment of opposing fans in a certain section?  Or when Mets fans threw batteries at John Rocker (which was admittedly pretty funny since he was a royal douchebag)?  But as usual, Philly fans are playing the &#8220;woe is me&#8221; card.  You want all the glory that comes with having a winning team in a large city but none of the downside.  Just accept people are going to think poorly of your fanbase when stupid crap happens.  Until that minority of fans stop doing these things, the opinion of Philly fans won&#8217;t improve.</p>
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		<title>By: psujay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[psujay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nps6724:

Are you so ignorant that you don&#039;t realize that the media is based out of NY and would never actually report poorly on NY?  NY, LA, Boston, and Chicago are never going to get a bad rap from ESPN or other national news media because they are their headquarters.  I&#039;ve gone to NY games and seen some horrible things, 250 people were arrested on opening day in LA...these things aren&#039;t going to be reported though.  It&#039;s chic to report about anything that happens in Philly.  I still don&#039;t understand why the kid getting tazed for running on the field is such big news considering fans run on the field everywhere in the country.  He didn&#039;t do anything hundreds of other fans haven&#039;t done, but because a cop tazed him it&#039;s a bad show on our fans?  If he hadn&#039;t been tazed it&#039;s not even news.  But it&#039;s Philly so ESPN blew it up.  

Should we bring up the Pittsburgh fan who killed his gf&#039;s puppy for barking during a Steelers&#039; game?  ESPN wouldn&#039;t even report on Roethlisberger because of their relationship with the Steelers until national pressure from other media sites forced them to do so, so there&#039;s no way they&#039;ll report on the fanbase.  

In Philly we get demonized for giving our teams a hard time, in NY it&#039;s galvanized as a &quot;Bronx Cheer.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nps6724:</p>
<p>Are you so ignorant that you don&#8217;t realize that the media is based out of NY and would never actually report poorly on NY?  NY, LA, Boston, and Chicago are never going to get a bad rap from ESPN or other national news media because they are their headquarters.  I&#8217;ve gone to NY games and seen some horrible things, 250 people were arrested on opening day in LA&#8230;these things aren&#8217;t going to be reported though.  It&#8217;s chic to report about anything that happens in Philly.  I still don&#8217;t understand why the kid getting tazed for running on the field is such big news considering fans run on the field everywhere in the country.  He didn&#8217;t do anything hundreds of other fans haven&#8217;t done, but because a cop tazed him it&#8217;s a bad show on our fans?  If he hadn&#8217;t been tazed it&#8217;s not even news.  But it&#8217;s Philly so ESPN blew it up.  </p>
<p>Should we bring up the Pittsburgh fan who killed his gf&#8217;s puppy for barking during a Steelers&#8217; game?  ESPN wouldn&#8217;t even report on Roethlisberger because of their relationship with the Steelers until national pressure from other media sites forced them to do so, so there&#8217;s no way they&#8217;ll report on the fanbase.  </p>
<p>In Philly we get demonized for giving our teams a hard time, in NY it&#8217;s galvanized as a &#8220;Bronx Cheer.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: psujay</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[psujay]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 13:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fans were booing and throwing snowballs before, during, and after Santa&#039;s appearance.  It had nothing to do with Santa really, it just happened to be that day.  If there was no Santa there still would have been snowballs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fans were booing and throwing snowballs before, during, and after Santa&#8217;s appearance.  It had nothing to do with Santa really, it just happened to be that day.  If there was no Santa there still would have been snowballs.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny 5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny 5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 01:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tabernacle too. I have some family out there off Caranza rd. The Ozark Mts.? Well I see you got yourself even more &quot;into the woods&quot;. It is the only way to live. Well all I have to say is. GO PHILLS! Effing Cody Ross just got an RBI!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tabernacle too. I have some family out there off Caranza rd. The Ozark Mts.? Well I see you got yourself even more &#8220;into the woods&#8221;. It is the only way to live. Well all I have to say is. GO PHILLS! Effing Cody Ross just got an RBI!!</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Old Gator]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 01:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In order to be apathetic, you need to have an interest upon which you fail to act. I don&#039;t think that applies here. Anyhow, mathematics explains everything. Just ask any Kabbalist. Madonna, for example.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to be apathetic, you need to have an interest upon which you fail to act. I don&#8217;t think that applies here. Anyhow, mathematics explains everything. Just ask any Kabbalist. Madonna, for example.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Rabbit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My sister moved from Marlton to Red Lion for the reasons you describe. We grew up in Camden County.
I moved to the Ozark Mountains from the Tabernacle area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My sister moved from Marlton to Red Lion for the reasons you describe. We grew up in Camden County.<br />
I moved to the Ozark Mountains from the Tabernacle area.</p>
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		<title>By: schmedley69</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[schmedley69]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They were booing the speed gun. They weren&#039;t booing Wagner. It was done tongue-in-cheek.. Wagner was just too stupid to realize it. He thought they were booing him. Billy Wagner is not a very smart man and says a lot of stupid things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They were booing the speed gun. They weren&#8217;t booing Wagner. It was done tongue-in-cheek.. Wagner was just too stupid to realize it. He thought they were booing him. Billy Wagner is not a very smart man and says a lot of stupid things.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny 5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny 5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rabbit I grew up on Old Red Lion rd. I spent my entire young life there. Wow! Small world indeed. I live up the road in Marlton now. My dad still lives there. Beautiful farm land and state forrests. It&#039;s sooo not &quot;New Jersey&quot; if you know what i mean. I&#039;ll never leave this area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rabbit I grew up on Old Red Lion rd. I spent my entire young life there. Wow! Small world indeed. I live up the road in Marlton now. My dad still lives there. Beautiful farm land and state forrests. It&#8217;s sooo not &#8220;New Jersey&#8221; if you know what i mean. I&#8217;ll never leave this area.</p>
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		<title>By: xmatt0926x</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ohh my good god!!! what??? Forget everything else right now. If it hasn&#039;t been done already please let me clear up the most rediculous claim of all time from Billy Wagner. when he was in philly he was touching 100 herer and there in games. It got to be a carnival like atmosphere when he would come in and fans would cheer and JOKINGLY give good natured boos when he&#039;d only hit 99 or 98. IT WAS FOR FUN YOU IDIOTS!!!! when wagner first complained about that I laughed because I thought he was obviously being sarcastic by saying that he was beeing booed for not hitting 100. Then as the years went by he kept saying it!! are you kidding me??? And now other people are actually buying into that?? Unreal. Philly fans have done some bad things and deservedly get criticised for them but this is a prime example of why philly fans jump off the handle every time something like this comes up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohh my good god!!! what??? Forget everything else right now. If it hasn&#8217;t been done already please let me clear up the most rediculous claim of all time from Billy Wagner. when he was in philly he was touching 100 herer and there in games. It got to be a carnival like atmosphere when he would come in and fans would cheer and JOKINGLY give good natured boos when he&#8217;d only hit 99 or 98. IT WAS FOR FUN YOU IDIOTS!!!! when wagner first complained about that I laughed because I thought he was obviously being sarcastic by saying that he was beeing booed for not hitting 100. Then as the years went by he kept saying it!! are you kidding me??? And now other people are actually buying into that?? Unreal. Philly fans have done some bad things and deservedly get criticised for them but this is a prime example of why philly fans jump off the handle every time something like this comes up.</p>
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		<title>By: The Rabbit</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Rabbit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:22:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a native Philadelphian/former South Jersey-ite (Johnny5, my sis, a season Phillies ticketholder lives on the edge of Red Lion) who has attended MLB games all over the country, I agree that Philly fans get a bad rap and that the worst behavior comes from a very small minority while under the influence of large quantities of alcohol.

However while attending games, I&#039;ve noticed one major difference between fans of other teams and a lot of Phillies fans.  John Smoltz summed it up the other night during the Rangers/Yankees broadcast and it wasn&#039;t about the Phillies.  He recounted his time warming up in Yankee Stadium and being heckled by Yankees fans.  He referred to it as &quot;the best professional heckling&quot; he&#039;d ever encountered.  They had even known about and commented on his accordian playing.  He said he found a lot of it pretty funny.

It may be part of the defensive nature of Philadelphians as retold in this post, but many Phillies fans just lack the humor and creativity that other fan bases use to exhibit their &quot;fandom&quot;. As an example, the signs held during Lincecum&#039;s start weren&#039;t funny.  They were juvenile and obnoxious reinforcing the stereotype.  If Phillies fans give a cr*p about their reputations (which they may not), more humor and less hostility might serve them well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a native Philadelphian/former South Jersey-ite (Johnny5, my sis, a season Phillies ticketholder lives on the edge of Red Lion) who has attended MLB games all over the country, I agree that Philly fans get a bad rap and that the worst behavior comes from a very small minority while under the influence of large quantities of alcohol.</p>
<p>However while attending games, I&#8217;ve noticed one major difference between fans of other teams and a lot of Phillies fans.  John Smoltz summed it up the other night during the Rangers/Yankees broadcast and it wasn&#8217;t about the Phillies.  He recounted his time warming up in Yankee Stadium and being heckled by Yankees fans.  He referred to it as &#8220;the best professional heckling&#8221; he&#8217;d ever encountered.  They had even known about and commented on his accordian playing.  He said he found a lot of it pretty funny.</p>
<p>It may be part of the defensive nature of Philadelphians as retold in this post, but many Phillies fans just lack the humor and creativity that other fan bases use to exhibit their &#8220;fandom&#8221;. As an example, the signs held during Lincecum&#8217;s start weren&#8217;t funny.  They were juvenile and obnoxious reinforcing the stereotype.  If Phillies fans give a cr*p about their reputations (which they may not), more humor and less hostility might serve them well.</p>
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		<title>By: apbaguy</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[apbaguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 23:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, there&#039;s fierce and then there&#039;s insane. And Oakland fans are both, and neither. The A&#039;s fans, those of us that are left, are really more like a sect, or cult: knowledgable in our little area of expertise, but also sun worshippers. Often you&#039;ll see A&#039;s fans in a coma at the games, lounging, spread over 6 or so seats, having had 2 beers and just absorbing the sun. The stadium can be eerily quiet. And that&#039;s when the A&#039;s are winning. When we&#039;re losing the stadium is eerily empty.

But Raiders fans are the exact opposite. Hostile, vicious, painted, angry, loud and rabid. Go to a Raiders game and you&#039;ll never complain about Phillies or Borg fans again. Never. Mark my words: one day you&#039;ll read about a chain saw fight in the stands at a Raiders game. Question: how did chain saws get into the stadium? Answer: they&#039;re on sale at the concession stands. As long as Al Davis is the owner, it could happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#8217;s fierce and then there&#8217;s insane. And Oakland fans are both, and neither. The A&#8217;s fans, those of us that are left, are really more like a sect, or cult: knowledgable in our little area of expertise, but also sun worshippers. Often you&#8217;ll see A&#8217;s fans in a coma at the games, lounging, spread over 6 or so seats, having had 2 beers and just absorbing the sun. The stadium can be eerily quiet. And that&#8217;s when the A&#8217;s are winning. When we&#8217;re losing the stadium is eerily empty.</p>
<p>But Raiders fans are the exact opposite. Hostile, vicious, painted, angry, loud and rabid. Go to a Raiders game and you&#8217;ll never complain about Phillies or Borg fans again. Never. Mark my words: one day you&#8217;ll read about a chain saw fight in the stands at a Raiders game. Question: how did chain saws get into the stadium? Answer: they&#8217;re on sale at the concession stands. As long as Al Davis is the owner, it could happen.</p>
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		<title>By: nps6724</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:33:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What did I say bad about them?  I mentioned actual incidents that occurred in Philly with their fans, I acknowledged not all Philly fans act this way but that many do (to deny it is ludicrous), and I said their fans haven&#039;t done anything to rid themselves of the label.

And the worst thing I said about the team is they&#039;re choking.  OH NO, HOW DARE I??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What did I say bad about them?  I mentioned actual incidents that occurred in Philly with their fans, I acknowledged not all Philly fans act this way but that many do (to deny it is ludicrous), and I said their fans haven&#8217;t done anything to rid themselves of the label.</p>
<p>And the worst thing I said about the team is they&#8217;re choking.  OH NO, HOW DARE I??</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So you obviously don&#039;t read what you write--or even think about it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you obviously don&#8217;t read what you write&#8211;or even think about it.</p>
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		<title>By: nps6724</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/21/yes-they-booed-santa-claus-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-85702</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:18:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And you wonder why Philly fans have such bad reps.  I didn&#039;t even say anything BAD about them.  You can definitely see the insecurities shining through.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you wonder why Philly fans have such bad reps.  I didn&#8217;t even say anything BAD about them.  You can definitely see the insecurities shining through.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 22:06:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So their gestational existence is aborted for numerical reasons?  I thought it was just apathy.  Hmmm...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So their gestational existence is aborted for numerical reasons?  I thought it was just apathy.  Hmmm&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Old Gator</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wish I could participate more substantively in this discussion but as a Feesh fan, I&#039;ve got a big problem. If we&#039;re honest with ourselves, we know that it&#039;s only a small percentage of the 40 or 50 thousand fans at a Feelies or Borg game who give the rest of them a bad name. Well, since the Feesh never attract more than five or six thousand fans to a normal home game, that percentage yields a fractionated fan, maybe 15-20% of a fan, not even enough cellular mass to sustain organic life. Ergo, potential asshole Feesh fans rarely survive gestation, much less adolescence, and never make it as far as Joep[rodolsharklife Stadium to be schmucky enough to attract national media attention in the first place. 

Now, when the Feelies, Mutts or the Borg are in town, the attendance at Joeprodolsharklife Stadium swells into the mid to high 20 thousands with fans of the visiting team. Then, when someone in the stands behaves like an asshole, the probability that he&#039;s a Mutts, Borg or Feelies fan is &lt;i&gt;exponentially&lt;/i&gt; greater than that he might be a loosely amalgamated smear of Feesh Fan protoplasm. Any way you slice it, Feesh fans just don&#039;t make the cut. Frustrating.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I could participate more substantively in this discussion but as a Feesh fan, I&#8217;ve got a big problem. If we&#8217;re honest with ourselves, we know that it&#8217;s only a small percentage of the 40 or 50 thousand fans at a Feelies or Borg game who give the rest of them a bad name. Well, since the Feesh never attract more than five or six thousand fans to a normal home game, that percentage yields a fractionated fan, maybe 15-20% of a fan, not even enough cellular mass to sustain organic life. Ergo, potential asshole Feesh fans rarely survive gestation, much less adolescence, and never make it as far as Joep[rodolsharklife Stadium to be schmucky enough to attract national media attention in the first place. </p>
<p>Now, when the Feelies, Mutts or the Borg are in town, the attendance at Joeprodolsharklife Stadium swells into the mid to high 20 thousands with fans of the visiting team. Then, when someone in the stands behaves like an asshole, the probability that he&#8217;s a Mutts, Borg or Feelies fan is <i>exponentially</i> greater than that he might be a loosely amalgamated smear of Feesh Fan protoplasm. Any way you slice it, Feesh fans just don&#8217;t make the cut. Frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/21/yes-they-booed-santa-claus-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-85685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a Philadelphia fan.  I root for the Phightins, the Eagles and the Flyers (though I will admit that I&#039;m a bandwagoner for the Sixers, since basketball is not my favorite sport and I don&#039;t like a lot of the players and their attitudes).  I know that Philly fans have an illegitimate bad reputation due to a few idiotic incidents over the course of Philly sports history.  I acknowledge it.  I do NOT embrace it.  It&#039;s just that I don&#039;t have the energy or the time to fight back every time these lame ass incidents are dragged out every 15 minutes or so.  And it&#039;s idiots like you who make it not worth my time.  You&#039;re a moron who is just lashing out after your team folded like a house of cards after you said that the Braves would take the division, since there was no way the Phils would be able to sustain a .750 pace.  Guess what?  They did--AND they were aided by your Braves, who utterly collapsed and barely held on to a wildcard spot.  And then you disappeared.  Now, you opportunistically re-appear to lash out and rip the Phillies again.  Crawl back into your spider hole.

Yes, the Philadelphia fans have a bad reputation which is constantly dragged out when there is some lazy reporter/columnist/blogger who needs to meet a deadline and doesn&#039;t have time or the ability to actually think of something interesting, relevant or even true.  I know this fanbase has a bad reputation--whether deserved or not.  I don&#039;t embrace it, but I also hate it.  Do I want my kid to grow up thinking that he will draw scorn from scumbags like nps just for the simple reason that he&#039;s from here and roots for his teams?  Hell no.  But there are more important things in life and it isn&#039;t worth my time, energy or effort to refute and try to change the minds of idiots like this one, who wouldn&#039;t be able to figure out that not every fan in a fanbase is like the jagoff who puked on a kid, or ran onto the field, or threw snowballs at some drunk schmuck impersonating a children&#039;s icon while drunk.  nps6724, you&#039;re an ignorant, idiotic jackass.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Philadelphia fan.  I root for the Phightins, the Eagles and the Flyers (though I will admit that I&#8217;m a bandwagoner for the Sixers, since basketball is not my favorite sport and I don&#8217;t like a lot of the players and their attitudes).  I know that Philly fans have an illegitimate bad reputation due to a few idiotic incidents over the course of Philly sports history.  I acknowledge it.  I do NOT embrace it.  It&#8217;s just that I don&#8217;t have the energy or the time to fight back every time these lame ass incidents are dragged out every 15 minutes or so.  And it&#8217;s idiots like you who make it not worth my time.  You&#8217;re a moron who is just lashing out after your team folded like a house of cards after you said that the Braves would take the division, since there was no way the Phils would be able to sustain a .750 pace.  Guess what?  They did&#8211;AND they were aided by your Braves, who utterly collapsed and barely held on to a wildcard spot.  And then you disappeared.  Now, you opportunistically re-appear to lash out and rip the Phillies again.  Crawl back into your spider hole.</p>
<p>Yes, the Philadelphia fans have a bad reputation which is constantly dragged out when there is some lazy reporter/columnist/blogger who needs to meet a deadline and doesn&#8217;t have time or the ability to actually think of something interesting, relevant or even true.  I know this fanbase has a bad reputation&#8211;whether deserved or not.  I don&#8217;t embrace it, but I also hate it.  Do I want my kid to grow up thinking that he will draw scorn from scumbags like nps just for the simple reason that he&#8217;s from here and roots for his teams?  Hell no.  But there are more important things in life and it isn&#8217;t worth my time, energy or effort to refute and try to change the minds of idiots like this one, who wouldn&#8217;t be able to figure out that not every fan in a fanbase is like the jagoff who puked on a kid, or ran onto the field, or threw snowballs at some drunk schmuck impersonating a children&#8217;s icon while drunk.  nps6724, you&#8217;re an ignorant, idiotic jackass.</p>
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		<title>By: tpdownes</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I remember when I got HD and 5.1 surround sound feed for the first time. It was the Sunday morning just after TO nearly overdosed and the Cowboys were in Philly.

The stadium was chanting &quot;OD, OD, OD&quot; to the tune of &quot;Ole, ole, ole&quot; the entire game.

I consider this part of the charm of Philadelphia fandom, though I could see why reasonable people would disagree. There is also a larger issue of &quot;East Coast&quot; (really the Northeast) fans versus other parts of the country. Generally speaking, &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.tedquarters.net/2010/10/20/what-we-think-of-when-we-think-of-yankee-fans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Situation style behavior&lt;/A&gt; would get you laughed at too much in other parts of the country for anyone to consider doing it. Not that it isn&#039;t laughed at in the Northeast, too, but there are more people who would consider it acceptable. I think a lot of the hate on Phillies fans is really about this kind of behavior. When people get drunk and do stupid things elsewhere, they do so in a little less showboat style.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember when I got HD and 5.1 surround sound feed for the first time. It was the Sunday morning just after TO nearly overdosed and the Cowboys were in Philly.</p>
<p>The stadium was chanting &#8220;OD, OD, OD&#8221; to the tune of &#8220;Ole, ole, ole&#8221; the entire game.</p>
<p>I consider this part of the charm of Philadelphia fandom, though I could see why reasonable people would disagree. There is also a larger issue of &#8220;East Coast&#8221; (really the Northeast) fans versus other parts of the country. Generally speaking, <a HREF="http://www.tedquarters.net/2010/10/20/what-we-think-of-when-we-think-of-yankee-fans" rel="nofollow">The Situation style behavior</a> would get you laughed at too much in other parts of the country for anyone to consider doing it. Not that it isn&#8217;t laughed at in the Northeast, too, but there are more people who would consider it acceptable. I think a lot of the hate on Phillies fans is really about this kind of behavior. When people get drunk and do stupid things elsewhere, they do so in a little less showboat style.</p>
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		<title>By: Gobias Industries</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/21/yes-they-booed-santa-claus-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-85672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gobias Industries]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ooh!  Ooh!  Tin foil!!!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/21/yes-they-booed-santa-claus-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-85669</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:01:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LOOK OVER THERE!!!!!  Shiny objects!!!!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOOK OVER THERE!!!!!  Shiny objects!!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
		<link>http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/10/21/yes-they-booed-santa-claus-heres-why/comment-page-1/#comment-85668</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What?!?  You&#039;re from Jersey?!?  Carpetbagger!!!!]]></description>
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		<title>By: Gobias Industries</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gobias Industries]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I didn&#039;t read this post nor did I read the comment by Chris.  Too long.  That&#039;s how lazy I am.  I barely made it through your comment before turning my attention back to licking off the Cheetos dust that&#039;s caked on my fingers.  So, what are we all talking about?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t read this post nor did I read the comment by Chris.  Too long.  That&#8217;s how lazy I am.  I barely made it through your comment before turning my attention back to licking off the Cheetos dust that&#8217;s caked on my fingers.  So, what are we all talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That always seemed weird.  Of course, I just hate on Billy Wagner for the times he opens his mouth, and for those two blown games against Houston in Sept 2005.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That always seemed weird.  Of course, I just hate on Billy Wagner for the times he opens his mouth, and for those two blown games against Houston in Sept 2005.</p>
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		<title>By: TC</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 20:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with you guys.  Philly fans, frequently, embrace their reputation.  They don&#039;t believe they&#039;re &quot;bad&quot; fans.  They believe they are &quot;fierce&quot; fans.  Tough fans.  Personally, I&#039;m ill-prepared to work the Philly incidents vs (say) NYC incidents conversation.  I live in Philly, not NYC, and when something happens here, I hear about it and read about it and it registers with me.  When something happens at Yankee Stadium, unless it&#039;s extraordinary (like the kid who jumped from the upper deck onto the netting behind home plate a couple of years ago, after the section chanted for him to do so), I forget about it entirely.  

It&#039;s absolutely true that there is some really abhorrent behavior at Phillies games.  Dollar Dog Night, for whatever reason, is especially so.  You could rename it &quot;Fight Night in the Right Field Upper Deck&quot;.  I would say, though, that generally, the fans have gotten better over the past 15 years or so.  There&#039;s been more of a crackdown on unruly fans, and the ticket prices have become prohibitive for people looking to just come to a midsummer came to fuck around .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you guys.  Philly fans, frequently, embrace their reputation.  They don&#8217;t believe they&#8217;re &#8220;bad&#8221; fans.  They believe they are &#8220;fierce&#8221; fans.  Tough fans.  Personally, I&#8217;m ill-prepared to work the Philly incidents vs (say) NYC incidents conversation.  I live in Philly, not NYC, and when something happens here, I hear about it and read about it and it registers with me.  When something happens at Yankee Stadium, unless it&#8217;s extraordinary (like the kid who jumped from the upper deck onto the netting behind home plate a couple of years ago, after the section chanted for him to do so), I forget about it entirely.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s absolutely true that there is some really abhorrent behavior at Phillies games.  Dollar Dog Night, for whatever reason, is especially so.  You could rename it &#8220;Fight Night in the Right Field Upper Deck&#8221;.  I would say, though, that generally, the fans have gotten better over the past 15 years or so.  There&#8217;s been more of a crackdown on unruly fans, and the ticket prices have become prohibitive for people looking to just come to a midsummer came to fuck around .</p>
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