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Pete Rose on the Hall of Fame: “Don’t wait till I’m dead”

Oct 22, 2010, 11:30 AM EDT

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Pete Rose sat down for another interview, and he has this to say about the Hall of Fame:

I would hope that I’d get a second chance. Don’t wait till I’m dead. The Hall of Fame is for family and friends. I’d like to get up there in front of them.

He also says, however, that he knows it’s all out of his hands. I don’t take any of this to be serious campaigning by Charlie Hustle. He knows there’s not a hell of a lot he can do about it, it seems. Everyone that talks to him is going to ask him about it of course.

It’s an interesting interview for other reasons, though. He’s asked a lot about the current Reds and Phillies teams. I find it almost jarring to hear him talk about current baseball. His ban has made him something of a time capsule when you think about it. The last time I really paid attention to him saying anything about current players he was talking about Eric Davis or Mario Soto or something.

  1. WhenMattStairsIsKing - Oct 22, 2010 at 11:48 AM

    I know this will probably get berated – I tend to roll far too many eyes when I say this – but I really don’t care anymore what Rose did. What’s done is done. If McJuicer gets to be a hitting coach, if Jose Canseco isn’t banned for being the biggest rat of all time, let Rose in already.

    • roadduck99 - Oct 22, 2010 at 12:08 PM

      I assume you’ll change your tune if it’s ever revealed that Pete Rose used some form of the juice during his career. Or amphetemines.

      • WhenMattStairsIsKing - Oct 22, 2010 at 12:35 PM

        All I’m saying is, there have been many morally-challenged players in MLB history. Rose doesn’t stand alone in this, despite his years of lying and embarrassment, so if he is to be banned, there are many others that should be considered, or just let the whole thing finally be put to rest.

      • roadduck99 - Oct 22, 2010 at 1:48 PM

        Well, there are different penalties for different rules violations. PEDs don’t warrant a ban, gambling on baseball does.

        And also, Pete Rose’s “moral challenges” aren’t limited to gambling.

    • bigharold - Oct 22, 2010 at 1:33 PM

      Comparing Roes to McGwire or Canseco is like comparing apples to oranges. I loved Rose as a player and his accomplishments on the field certainly warrant his inclusion to the HOF, except for that thing about breaking baseball’s cardinal rule.

      His accomplishments not withstanding Rose was, to me as a boy watching him play, what was all that was great about baseball. He became one of the best players of his era by seemingly nothing more than his will to be so. He was neither big or strong or fast and was average in just about every way. He didn’t have a particularly great arm or powerful bat. He was in fact an everyman. But, he played with a ferocious passion that enabled him excel. That his legendary work ethic and his self confidence enabled him to achieve just about all there was for a player to achieve. That confidence, however, was and is also his down fall. It’s what allowed him to think that he could break the one rule in baseball that gets a player a lifetime ban. He was sure he could get away with it because he was, after all, Pete Rose.

      Steroids will be recorded in baseball history in much the same way as the dead ball was, or the time before players of color were allowed to compete. It was so widespread that it will assume its own era. Betting on baseball and the potential harm it could do to the game is, in my opinion, a far greater concern. And, if you can’t enforce what is supposedly the cardinal rule in such a flagrant violation with two plus decades of lying and denial then baseball doesn’t have a rule against gambling.

      I loved Rose when he was a player but all that has happened to him with regard to his ban from baseball are self inflicted wounds exacerbated by his poor behavior and judgment since his betting was forst publized. I still think he should eventually be allowed into the HOF but in MLB time frame not Pete Rose’s. And, Rose’s complaining that it should be done before he’s dead doesn’t really resonate considering it took him 20 years or so to finally admit he did it.

  2. JBerardi - Oct 22, 2010 at 12:12 PM

    “The Hall of Fame is for family and friends. I’d like to get up there in front of them.

    Does this seem like a blatant contradiction to anyone else?

  3. chipmaker023 - Oct 22, 2010 at 1:11 PM

    The Hall is for history. That honorees get to enjoy the status while still drawing breath is a bonus.

    There is not a lot Rose can do, but there is NOTHING anyone else is GOING to do, unless and until he begins reforming his life. That opportunity is real, and though the chance toward reinstatement it provides is quite small, it’s the only one he’s got.

    If Rose’s standing is important to his legion of fans and apologists, some of them really need to step up and take personal, interventive action, because Rose clearly is neither interested nor capable of doing anything on his own.

    The gambling rule has nothing to do with any questions regarding morality, and fans should stop deluding themselves that it does, because that’s a real dead ender concept.

  4. lardin - Oct 22, 2010 at 1:18 PM

    The biggest misconception in sports is that Pete Rose is not in the Baseball Hall of fame. He is. There is an exhibit on him breaking the hits record and he is mentioned in the exhibits honoring the Big Red Machine teams of the 1970′s. Its not like Pete Rose is ignored or permanently deleted from the Hall of fame. Rose’s on the field accomplishments are represented in the Hall of fame. It’s not like the powers that be whitewashed Pete Rose out of existence. What Pete does not have is the ability to write HOF after his name, which is what he really wants, because its worth lot of money. Pete Rose does not deserve this right. He disrespected the game and then lied about it for years.

    Pete Rose is in the Hall of fame, he is not a Hall of famer

  5. Jonny 5 - Oct 22, 2010 at 2:44 PM

    Rose will get in at the ripe old age of 78. Bud Selig will be dead by then right?

    • Richard In Big D - Oct 22, 2010 at 4:09 PM

      Probably not. That would require Selig actually DO something. He would have to die!

      • Jonny 5 - Oct 22, 2010 at 4:18 PM

        Ha!!!

  6. rabiague1986 - Oct 22, 2010 at 10:09 PM

    He should be let in as a player.

    As for the Steroid era(1987-2006?) the best players of this era who happened to test positive for steroids should not be disallowed. For every Rafael Palmeiro or Alex Rodriguez there are tons of Chris Donnells, Jason Grimsley and F.P. Santangelo. A minute few will remember the last 3 50 years from now. Just give them a separate wing of the hall of fame and be done with it.

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