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The Reds would like to do a four year deal with Joey Votto

Oct 22, 2010, 4:11 PM EDT

Joey Votto

Joey Votto is arbitration eligible this year and for the next two years after that.  While his potential award this season — probably in the $6-7 million range? — is doable for the Reds, they’re probably not going to want to go all three years with him, because they start running into Ryan Howard as a comparable salary pretty soon, and that means a lot of damn money.  If you’re the Reds you want to get him signed to an extension soon, I would imagine.

And such imaginings are likely soon, according to Paul Daugherty of the Cincinnati Equirer:

Simply, should the club try to lock up its best player and franchise cornerstone now, even though it controls his future for the next three years? One club insider suggested any long-term deal would start at four years, and be for something well north of $40 million, and that the club would be interested in going that route.

Daugherty talks to an anonymous agent who said he’d advise Votto to wait another year.  That may make some sense. While all of us would step on someone’s throat for $40 million tomorrow, the lesson to be drawn from a lot of the recent arbitration-avoiding extensions is that the players end up leaving a ton of money on the table. To wit: Evan Longoria’s six year $17.5 million deal. Which, while an extreme, extreme, extreme outlier in terms of a club-friendly, player-hostile deal, is an example of the dangers of signing too quickly.

Mercy. Longoria is going to make $2 million next year. And $4.5 million in 2012. I don’t know if there has ever been a worse deal for a star player since the advent of free agency.

  1. schmedley69 - Oct 22, 2010 at 4:16 PM

    No wonder Longoria went to such great lengths to get his hat back. He can’t afford a new one.

    • ta192 - Oct 22, 2010 at 4:47 PM

      Holy Crap, is that miserable excuse for a commercial a NATIONAL ad? I thought only us poor bastards in the Havana suburbs had to put up with that one…

      • schmedley69 - Oct 22, 2010 at 4:56 PM

        We’ve been getting it here in Maryland all season long, ad nauseam.

  2. IdahoMariner - Oct 22, 2010 at 4:23 PM

    I know this isn’t exactly relevant (as in, not at all), but I just read this (finishing just moments ago) from The Common Man from September’s kerfuffle about Tampa fans, and while I think Longoria makes less than he could (and the owners make far, far more money) he also makes a hell of a lot of money:

  3. Utley's Hair - Oct 22, 2010 at 4:35 PM

    “While all of us would step on someone’s throat for $40 million tomorrow…”

    If you believe what you hear, us Phightins Phans would do that for shits and giggles–which I believe is somewhat less than $40 million.

    • Adam - Oct 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

      And yet another thread becomes about Phillies fans. And you wonder why Craig said you were the most defensive fans in the game.

      • Utley's Hair - Oct 22, 2010 at 7:10 PM

        Based on the percentage of posts that have been Phils Phan bashing in recent weeks, months and years, I just took a preemptive shot.

        But really, how can we be both defensive and offensive simultaneously?

  4. quintjs - Oct 22, 2010 at 6:26 PM

    Longoria signed a great deal – he was guaranteed 17.5million dollars, without basically having to play in the majors.

    If something bad happens to Votto (god forbid) but if he did, he would make almost nothing out of his major league career – while Longoria will get 17.5million.

    Yes Longoria could have got more waiting, but he guaranteed he will be a millionaire, and will be a free agent at age 29 or 30 or something and sign for a lot (basically a given options would be picked up)

    I would much rather be in Longoria’s position than Votto’s.

    • rabiague1986 - Oct 22, 2010 at 9:14 PM

      100% agree here. 17.5 Million before facing one pitch in the majors? You would be a fool to turn that down. Say he does get injured or his level of play drops off dramatically he still will be a millionaire and never have to work a real job in his life. Plus he gets other money from endorsements, appearances and autograph siginings.

      That said if you want to get yours and can stay healthy more power to you. Love to see the White Sox with a Joey Votto type some day.

  5. metalhead65 - Oct 23, 2010 at 12:40 AM

    knowing how the reds billionaire owners hate to spend a nickel of their own money he will win his arbitration case then they will trade him before they have to pay him the realy big bucks,because you know they are such a small market town and it’s frustrating being a reds fan. they finaly build a winner and you watch they will let key guys walk or trade them before they have to pay them.they are already talking about if they have to pay bruce how ill they afford phillips?it should be easy with a owner worth a few billion.

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