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Scott Boras is looking for Matt Holliday money for Jayson Werth

Nov 6, 2010, 10:57 AM EDT

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According to Todd Zolecki of MLB.com, the belief is that Jayson Werth could seek a contract similar to the seven-year, $120 million deal Matt Holliday received from the Cardinals last winter.

Scott Boras stated his new client’s case for big dollars on Friday.

“We have, in my mind, probably the most coveted offensive player in the free-agent market,” Boras said. “Carl Crawford is a really great player, but the truth of the matter is, Werth scores as many runs, and his on-base percentage is the same. Werth is a guy that can play center field and has played center field recently. He’s a Gold Glove-type outfielder. Crawford is, too. But the big difference is that Werth has 87 home runs over the last three years and Crawford has 42. Werth is really a middle-of-the-lineup guy. I think when he bats third, he’ll be a 110-to-120-runs-scored guy and a 100-RBI guy. And I think teams that are looking for a right-handed bat view Werth as a middle-of-the-lineup guy.”

It’s true that Werth has a big advantage over Crawford in the OPS department. He also helps balance a team’s lineup from the right side of the plate. But that’s where the comparison ends. Crawford, 29, is nearly two years younger than the 31-year-old Werth and is arguably the best left fielder in the major leagues. If any player gets a seven-year contract this offseason, it will be Crawford.

As our own Matthew Pouliot mentioned earlier this week, the more realistic benchmark for Werth is the four-year, $66 million contract Jason Bay received from the Mets last winter. For what it’s worth, Pouliot ranked Werth as the No. 3 free agent this offseason and Crawford No. 2.

The Phillies haven’t closed the door on re-signing Werth, but two MLB officials told Jeff Fletcher of AOL Fanhouse that the Tigers seem like a likely landing spot. The fun begins in less than 24 hours.

  1. uyf1950 - Nov 6, 2010 at 11:30 AM

    No doubt he is one of the premier free agents this season, but 7 years $120M no chance.
    He’s almost a year older then Hollliday and Holliday is already one year into his contract that he signed in 2009. Plus St. Louis for some reason bid against themselves for Holliday, there weren’t any other takes for Holliday’s services at that length and money.
    Boras is unlike to find that perfect storm again this year. Look for Werth to top out at 5 years $75 to $80M total. There just aren’t that many teams that are going to commit for that length of time and money the Red Sox, Tigers and perhaps the Angels if they don’t get Crawford. Either the Red Sox or most likely the Angels will sign Crawford that only leaves 2 teams as likely/possible Werth destinations.

  2. Old Gator - Nov 6, 2010 at 12:20 PM

    Given how much he resembles an extra from Downhill Racer in that photo, maybe Boras ought to be looking for Robert Redford money for him instead.

  3. soccermom17540 - Nov 6, 2010 at 1:26 PM

    Bor-a** is everything that’s wrong with baseball. Phillies’ fans shouldn’t blame the organization for raising ticket prices . .

    Werth is a great player and I’d love to see him in Phillie pinstripes next year but he isn’t worth 7 years . . .

    • scapistron - Nov 6, 2010 at 3:07 PM

      Do you honestly believe it is the players driving up the cost of tickets?

      In baseball the players take home about 52 percent of league wide revenue, which is the lowest of all the major sports. Baseball players are still trying to catch up with their peers when it comes to salary. Keep in mind that the Yankees and their 200MM payroll are still able to turn a profit, which should give you an idea of what kind of money the owners are pocketing.

      It is the players and owners working in concert that drives the numbers up, and we the fans are the fuel that allows them to go ever higher. If you don’t like it stop attending games and just watch them from the comfort of your couch.

      • soccermom17540 - Nov 6, 2010 at 5:46 PM

        So maybe I should’ve said that the fans shouldn’t blame JUST the organization . . .

        Agents are putting unrealistic ideas into players heads and inflating their egos beyond they’re worth (not that any pro player is worth what they are paid). A 31-year-old outfielder expecting 7 years . . . um, yeah. But sadly he will probably get it somewhere and then the fans of that team will be upset in 3 – 4 years when his production tanks.

        But you are right, as long as fans continue to pay the tickets prices, the stadiums will be filled and the players and owners will make money. If they don’t, ticket prices will fall (see NY Mets).

        And thankfully the ticket prices in Philly are still only a fraction of those of the Yankees!!!

        PS: Werth STUNK with RISP this season. Beware whatever team picks him up!

    • geokaplan - Nov 7, 2010 at 9:53 AM

      That is completely hypocritical.

      If you hired someone to negotiate your salary at work (assuming that you do work), then you’d want someone who can maximize the amount you’re going to be paid. That is all Scott Boras does, and he is the best in his industry at such.

      Blaming him for high salaries in baseball is to wildly misunderstand how players earn these contracts: An agent floats a suggestion and the team says yes or no. Read that last part again if you’re still confused; Boras didn’t extort $120M from the Cardinals, they offered Matt Holiday that amount of money to stay with the team. The Cardinals could always have refused, but they did not.

      Agents don’t write contracts, general managers do. The really good organizations are those which can survive the departure of a player and continue to thrive. Are the Phillies that kind of team? I guess we’ll find out in 2011, assuming the Phillies front office doesn’t decide that the team can’t do without Werth.

      • soccermom17540 - Nov 8, 2010 at 9:23 AM

        Yes, I would someone negotiating for the best of me. So maybe I should complain that the owners need to get a backbone and just refuse to sign players for contracts that will take them way past their prime. Not until that happens will these outrageous contracts stop.

        I just don’t care for arrogance and Boras is the epitome of that in my opinion. And I guess since I know he gets a cut of these contracts . . . well . . .

        But point taken.

    • phillysoulfan - Nov 8, 2010 at 8:32 AM

      What does Werth leaving have to do with the Phillies raising ticket prices? Do you think that maybe, just maybe, that the Phillies being a World Championship caliber team AND having one of the lowest ticket prices in the league might have had a little something to do with that? Or how about selling every game out?

      • soccermom17540 - Nov 8, 2010 at 9:27 AM

        You are 100% correct . . . Werth leaving has nothing to do with Phillies raising ticket prices. But many “fans” are whining that the only reason they should raise ticket prices is if they sign Werth.

        I should’ve made a more general statement that fans should not just blame the organization for rise of ticket prices (which is what is happening on many Phillie blogs). It’s the economy . . . supply & demand . . . along with salaries, etc.

  4. elric718 - Nov 6, 2010 at 2:11 PM

    I am looking for a date with Kate Beckinsale and am about as likely to get it.

    If an American (major) League teams signs him for the big dollars, they will regret it. He should stick to AAAA.

  5. 911tturbo - Nov 6, 2010 at 3:40 PM

    This so called super agent is the problem with MLB. If these reports are true and he is asking 7yrs $20 per year or anything remotely close is just stupid. As a life long baseball fan let alone Phillies fan, I would not pay Werth more money than Pujols. Pujols made $17mil this year. Who would pitchers love to face? Pujols or Werth? Yes Werth is above average with the glove, yes he has good speed on base even though this year he only had I think 15 stolen bases vs 47 for Crawford. Yes he can hit homeruns but while the bases are empty. As a season ticket holder I would go nuts at the game when the Phillies had RISP with 2 outs and Werth was at the plate, why u ask? because he was hitting 125. Just when we fans thought he was going to have a monsterous contract year it was anything but that. Yes he SAYS he would love to be back, what else would he say? He cant say I HATE PHILA. Scott B his agent loves these type of deals, he reminds me of a used car salesman and B.S his way and makes pretend other teams are in the hunt when in reality theres no one else. As a season ticket holder I wouldnt give him more than 5yrs at 70mil with incentives on SBases and walks and gold gloves. And if it were up to me I would go after Beltre and convert him in to a outfielder with the same contract offer as Werth.

    • soccermom17540 - Nov 6, 2010 at 5:47 PM

      Thumbs up!!!

    • geokaplan - Nov 7, 2010 at 10:05 AM

      So what you’re saying is that the GMs of teams in baseball are, to the man, incredibly stupid for being outwitted by guys like Scott Boras all the time?

      Is it possible that you have never once in your life negotiated for anything? You’ve never bought a car, listened to the car salesman’s price, responded with a counter-offer lower than what you’re prepared to pay, and worked to meet somewhere in the middle? That is ALL this quote from Boras is. It isn’t an ironclad demand for that much or no deal. What, Werth will sit out 2011 if he doesn’t get $120M/7 yrs? He’ll take the best offer he can find. That is all ANY player winds up receiving. If some team is prepared to offer him $100M/6 yrs (or $90M/5 yrs, with an option for a 6th yr), then he’s making more than Jason Bay even if he’s making less than the initial floated suggestion from Boras above. Big deal–he’s going to be set for life with that contract, and that is what his agent is doing for him.

      BTW, if you really think going after Beltre and moving him to the OF is the solution, then be prepared to sit across the table from Adrian Beltre’s agent: Scott Boras.

  6. schmedley69 - Nov 6, 2010 at 4:28 PM

    I’m a Phils fan, and I think they should let him walk. He’s not worth that kind of money. He’s one of those guys who is good when he’s part of a supporting cast, but when he’s counted on to carry the load (like when Utley and Howard were on the DL), he comes up small. I would give him a Jayson Bay type deal, but nothing more.

  7. bloodysock - Nov 6, 2010 at 7:03 PM

    Hey Scott, what about Werth’s 25%+ strikeout ratio and 13 SB compared to Crawford’s 17% K ratio and 47 SB’s?

  8. Ari Collins - Nov 6, 2010 at 9:19 PM

    Hey guys. Calm down. No one’s saying he should get seven years except for the guy who’s job it is to say he should get seven years. Boras and teams will meet in the middle at 5 or maybe 6 and everyone will be happy.

    P.S. Except for people in comment threads who get angry at everything.

  9. Jonny 5 - Nov 7, 2010 at 10:19 AM

    Keep him, he’s Werth it. Anyway, 4 years 60 million is probably what the Phills are hoping to settle on. They were the team that gave him a shot, and got him to where he is now. I think he’ll take that into consideration.

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