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Juan Samuel could wind up back with Philly

Nov 9, 2010, 9:55 AM EDT

Juan Samuel

No, not as a second basemen or outfielder, sadly. As a first base coach. That according to’s Brittany Ghiroli, who notes that Samuel did not take part in the Orioles’ organizational meetings last week and may be in line to take over Davey Lopes’ old job with the Phils.

The last time I said something about first base coaches — I think I dismissed their importance — a lot of you countered with the notion that they’re important to have for base stealing purposes, as they see every opposing pitcher on every pitch, and thus are invaluable in teaching their own base runners how to read moves and stuff.  It’s an excellent and rather obvious point, in hindsight, that I’m rather embarrassed that I didn’t consider.

Which also makes me understand why so many Phillies fans were sad to see Lopes go. In his career he was an 80% base stealer. Samuel, in contrast, was only successful about two-thirds of the time. While the Phillies are perceived as a take-and-rake kind of team, the fact is that they were fourth in the NL in stolen bases in 2010, and were caught stealing fewer times than every single team in the league.  You probably have to give Davy Lopes credit for that, and you probably have to wonder if Juan Samuel — who was a less-successful base stealer than his speed should have had him being — will be able to maintain that kind of success.

  1. Jonny 5 - Nov 9, 2010 at 10:02 AM

    And Ryne Sandberg is interviewing to manage the Iron Pigs. Yeah, No sheeit!

    • Utley's Hair - Nov 9, 2010 at 10:59 AM

      With Chase, it’s just a regular Phightins second-base-a-palooza isn’t it?

  2. BC - Nov 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM

    If he goes to Philly, maybe the Mets can pull a re-do and trade Carlos Beltran for him.

    • Utley's Hair - Nov 9, 2010 at 11:24 AM

      If Beltran came here, at least his “team to beat” mutterings would be true.

  3. Jonny 5 - Nov 9, 2010 at 11:27 AM

    Now that you mention it, yeah. Although Samuel played every position besides pitcher and catcher during his career, but he was a second baseman with the Phills. Sandberg was the one that got away though….

    • Utley's Hair - Nov 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM

      Ivan DeJesus was totally worth it, though, wasn’t he? Oh…that’s right…. But at least we have The Man now.

      • Jonny 5 - Nov 9, 2010 at 12:01 PM

        Yeah, Sandberg and Bowa went on that trade. Not one of the best trades ever………..

  4. The Rabbit - Nov 9, 2010 at 1:46 PM

    IMHO, the Phillies need a 3rd base coach, too.

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