Comments on: Does the free agent compensation system overrate relievers?

By: Matt Guerrier and Jesse Crain leave Twins for three-year deals » AaronGleeman.com » Aaron Gleeman's Baseball and Minnesota Twins Blog

Wed, 22 Dec 2010 16:35:26 +0000

[...] their new teams a pick, but unfortunately Guerrier was tagged as Type A by a ratings system that drastically overrates relievers and it forced a risk-versus-reward choice upon the [...]

By: Frank Francisco likely to accept arbitration, return to Rangers | HardballTalk

Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:19:37 +0000

[...] wrote earlier this month about how the free agent compensation system significantly overrates relievers, pegging them as 37 [...]

By: Frank Francisco likely to accept arbitration, return to Rangers | HardballTalk

Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:19:37 +0000

[...] wrote earlier this month about how the free agent compensation system significantly overrates relievers, pegging them as 37 [...]

By: proudlycanadian

proudlycanadian — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 19:06:24 +0000

There certainly is something wrong with a system that ranks Adam Dunn, Vlad Guerrero and Bengie Molina as Type A Free Agents.

With regard to the relief pitchers, anyone who has watched Scott Downs knows that he is a Type A pitcher. The Jays will not get a first round pick for him because the team that signs him will probably sign a more expensive Type A Free Agent, thus reducing the compensation for Downs to a second round pick and a sandwich round pick.

The Yankees need pitching of all types. Lets suppose that they sign Lee, Downs and Frasor. The Rangers would get the NY first round pick and a sandwich round pick. The Jays would get 2 sandwich round picks plus NY’s picks in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. The Jays would lose 2 Type A free agents but would not get any first round picks. IS THIS FAIR? I don’t think so.

By: Adam

Adam — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:57:08 +0000

I said that on this blog when they released the rankings. It’s absolutely absurd and unfair to the relievers. Who’s going to give them a market rate contract AND give up a first round pick for a middle reliever? Other than the Royals that is.

By: RickyB

RickyB — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:12:11 +0000

Sorry, when I think of someone saying, “You’re doing it wrong,” I will always think of Mr. Mom. How old am I? http://bit.ly/cnyvMM (1:25 mark)

“Wanna beer?”
“It’s 7 o’clock in the morning!”
“Scotch?”

By: Detroit Michael

Detroit Michael — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 17:00:28 +0000

To be fair, from Elias’ viewpoint, the goal is to follow the procedure set forth in the collective bargaining agreement. I’m sure that the Elias Sports Bureau could land on a better way of ranking by value the free agents if management and union representatives agreed that they would just trust whatever system Elias thought was best.

By: WhenMattStairsIsKing

WhenMattStairsIsKing — Thu, 11 Nov 2010 16:47:07 +0000

Relievers as Type A’s is an absurd thought unless they’re a closer as good as Rivera, or unless they’re a leader or near-leader in Holds.

The guys with the top 5 percentages of saves per opportunities, and the guys with the top 5 percentages of holds per opportunities isn’t a perfect idea either, but it’s a better one in my opinion.