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Pujols tops Votto as MLB announces Silver Slugger Awards

Nov 11, 2010, 7:43 PM EDT

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Major League Baseball revealed its 2010 Silver Slugger Award recipients this evening during a one-hour special on MLB Network.  It’s the kind of show that would be far better suited for the announcement of Gold Gloves — you know, with highlights of great plays and range breakdowns — but MLBN probably had better programming lined up earlier this week when those awards were given out.  Like a replay of the 1985 ALDS.  Or something.

The National League recipients:

1B Albert Pujols
2B Dan Uggla
3B Ryan Zimmerman
SS Troy Tulowitzki
OF Ryan Braun
OF Matt Holliday
OF Carlos Gonzalez
P Yovani Gallardo

Reds first baseman Joey Votto outproduced Pujols this year in most of baseball’s meaningful offensive stat categories, including OPS, but Silver Sluggers are decided by MLB managers and coaches, and they obviously don’t take the voting process seriously enough to look into such things.

Gallardo, the NL’s winner at pitcher, registered a cool 837 OPS, four home runs and 10 RBI in 63 at-bats this year for the Brewers.

And the American League recipients:

1B Miguel Cabrera
2B Robinson Cano
3B Adrian Beltre
SS Alexei Ramirez
OF Jose Bautista
OF Carl Crawford
OF Josh Hamilton
DH Vladimir Guerrero

Ramirez hit just .282/.313/.431 for the White Sox this season, but there aren’t a ton of highly productive shortstops in the American League these days and his 18 homers and 70 RBI are what carried him to the hardware. It was his first Silver Slugger Award.

  1. Windu - Nov 11, 2010 at 8:14 PM

    forgot catchers.

  2. umrguy42 - Nov 11, 2010 at 10:23 PM

    Out of curiosity, what are “meaningful” offensive stat categories? Didn’t Pujols lead 2 of the 3 Triple Crown categories (HR and RBI, if memory serves)?

  3. Utley's Hair - Nov 12, 2010 at 1:26 AM

    Kinda strange how much was said about Jeter’s offense and how it led to his gold glove, and yet not a silver slugger.

    • paperlions - Nov 12, 2010 at 7:44 AM

      Jeter’s offense led to his previous GGs, now there is just the inertia of laziness.

  4. willmose - Nov 12, 2010 at 8:16 AM

    Of course, the managers and coaches don’t know beans about which players are good offensively and defensively. Only the sabermetric guys and the fantasy baseball assholes know jack about players. Votto over Pujols? Craig, you are getting way too fond of your crack pipe. Votto played 1/2 his games in a bandbox, aka the Great American Ballpark, Pujols played 1/2 his game in offensively neutral stadium. Perhaps the managers and coaches actually looked at the offensive stats as WEIGHTED by ballpark. Craig, you need to take what you do seriously and look at OPS independent of stadium stat. Of course, writers always take their voting seriously. As an example, according to Keith Law last year neither Wainwright or Carpenter were among the top 3 SP in 2009. He used a stat called Pitching Independent of Defensive. This stat correlates will the real world only marginally better than flipping a coin.

    • churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged - Nov 12, 2010 at 8:35 AM

      Craig, you are getting way too fond of your crack pipe.

      how’s the pipe you are smoking, since Drew wrote this and not Craig? As for your other comments, Votto lead Pujols in all three triple slash categories including leading the league in OBP and SLG. For the sabr crowd, Votto lead in fWAR, wRC and wOBA. Oh, and as for his splits:

      H – .297/.394/.556 – 15 2bs, 18 HR, 56 RsBI
      A – .349/.452/.641 – 21 2bs, 19 HR, 57 RsBI

      The FIP comment is just icing on the cake.

    • ThatGuy - Nov 12, 2010 at 9:12 AM

      Owned….

      • willmose - Nov 12, 2010 at 11:56 AM

        @churchoftheperpetuallyunderbrained

        It is well known that Craig passes his crack pipe to Drew. Again, you didn’t attempt to show ballpark neutral stats for Votto or Pujols. What are Votto ballpark neutral stats (not the same they as the away stats).

        FIP is a crap stat as it does not corelate to jack shit. As a predictor it is next to useless. Do you even understand what corelation is in statistics? Do you understand non-linear dynamics or just the linear shit that is put out by statistical retards.

        Of course, you must agree with Drew that managers and coaches don’t know a good player when one knocks them down.

      • hackerjay - Nov 12, 2010 at 12:54 PM

        If you are so interested in ballpark neutral stats, here you go:

        Votto OPS+: 174
        Pujols OPS+: 173

        Votto True Average: .350
        Pujols True Average: .344

        Votto wOBA: .439
        Pujols wOBA: .420

        All in all they were pretty darn close. I could see giving the award to either one, though I probably would have gone with Votto.

      • umrguy42 - Nov 12, 2010 at 1:26 PM

        @hackerjay Votto will probably take the MVP, and despite the fact that I’m a BIG Cardinals homer, I’d say he likely deserves it based on numbers + getting the Reds to the postseason.

      • Bochy's Head/Timmy's Bong - Nov 12, 2010 at 10:47 PM

        @willmose: “FIP is a crap stat as it does not corelate [sic] to jack shit. As a predictor it is next to useless.”

        I’m sure FIP as a predictor is not nearly as good as what we’d get if we just put away the computers and watched the damn games, right? And I can’t speak to your most serious charge as I know of no studies comparing FIP to “jack shit.” Perhaps you’re currently working on one?

        However, as compared to a more traditional stat like ERA, FIP beats the hell out of it. Not even close.

        Here’s the proof:
        http://www.insidethebook.com/ee/index.php/site/comments/fip_and_era/

  5. ThatGuy - Nov 12, 2010 at 9:15 AM

    The catcher winners that were omitted were Mauer and McCann. Surprised Posey didn’t win it but I suppose he did miss two months.

    • willmose - Nov 12, 2010 at 11:58 AM

      Yeah, Posey could have gotten the award. After all it about who had the best 2/3 of a season.

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