Comments on: Pittsburgh writer leaves Heyward off Rookie of the Year ballot, includes two Pirates

By: Dejan Kovacevic discusses his ROY ballot

Dejan Kovacevic discusses his ROY ballot — Thu, 18 Nov 2010 04:39:11 +0000

[...] week for his Rookie of the Year selections. Dejan left Atlanta Braves right fielder Jason Heyward off his ballot, voting for Buster Posey, Neil Walker and Jose Tabata [...]

By: gonfalon

gonfalon — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:44:23 +0000

by that standard, then the accomplishments of Walker, Tabata, and even Pedro Alvarez are much more remarkable than Heyward, since the Pirates’ rookies didn’t have the advantage of facing one of the major league’s worst pitching staffs to pad their stats.

By: tomemos

tomemos — Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:34:04 +0000

Oh pish, you’re getting on him for personal attacks? What is this, a model UN? When someone makes an idiotic argument I think it’s valuable to call a spade a spade.

By: nps6724

nps6724 — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:24:29 +0000

I’ve already said multiple times Posey deserved to win. Not to mention the post in question makes zero mention of Posey; it is a comparison between Heyward and Francoeur. So if you thought Heyward not winning was the reason, you were the one projecting that.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 23:22:59 +0000

Actually, had Keith Law not voted Vazquez second, moving Wainwright up to #2 and Carpenter to #3, Lincecum still would have won it. Try again.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:54:20 +0000

Whether his comment makes any sense to you or anyone else, any personal attack like that requires points of argument. Otherwise, you just come off as a malcontent Bravos fan lashing out because your guy didn’t make it.

By: tomemos

tomemos — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:30:22 +0000

Yeah, he doesn’t need a well-constructed argument. Frenchy in 2005 played in only 70 games.

If the author meant 2006 as his rookie season, then that would be the season in which Frenchy (in 162 games) walked 23 times, struck out 132 times, hit .260, and OBPed .293. So either way the comparison is beyond nonsensical.

By: nps6724

nps6724 — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:13:05 +0000

Why would I need one? Anyone who thinks Heyward is a “Francoeur wannabe” or not as good as he was in 2005 doesn’t really deserve one.

By: Utley's Hair

Utley's Hair — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 22:07:42 +0000

Well-constructed argument there.

By: nps6724

nps6724 — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:19:49 +0000

“After all Frenchie had better numbers than Heyward as rookie and spent l much less time on DL.”

You’re an idiot.

By: hackerjay

hackerjay — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 21:19:26 +0000

The only difference is that it was pretty easy to come up with three pitchers better then Carpenter, who didn’t even pitch 200 innings.

I almost wonder if the Pittsburgh writer just really though Posey should win, so he left Heyward off the ballot in case the second or third place vote would give Heyward the win.

By: PanchoHerreraFanClub

PanchoHerreraFanClub — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:43:18 +0000

This is hardly news remebering the Cy Young last year where one writer cost Carpenter the award by not including him on the ballot. You have slammed the managers and coaches for their choices in the Silver Slugger and Golden Glove awards. Now it is the writers turn. Personally, I see Heyward as a Frenchie wantabe. After all Frenchie had better numbers than Heyward as rookie and spent l much less time on DL.

By: thegoche

thegoche — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:40:57 +0000

I wouldn’t say that. These awards have very little integrity anyway.

Mostly it just proves that that dude is an unrepentant homer. I mean, I, a Braves fan who would have voted for Heyward, have no problem with being a homer.

(I am an FSU fan too though, so I’m happy for Posey anyway).

But that guy deserves to be mocked a little for not just 1 but 2 otherwise indefensible homer votes.

By: cosfba

cosfba — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:26:11 +0000

One “throw-away” vote spoils the entire integrity of the award.
Just saying.

By: thegoche

thegoche — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:20:44 +0000

This guy was only going based on what he saw.

I mean, Heyward only went 16 for 34 with 2 doubles, a triple and 2 homers, for .471/.561/.765 against the Pirates this year.

I can only assume that rookies as a whole averaged OPSed 1400 against the Pirates, so you can see why he wasn’t impressed.

By: Jonny 5

Jonny 5 — Mon, 15 Nov 2010 20:07:26 +0000

I think Posey should get it. IMO Jason H would have been beat soundly had Posey had all season to play. It was close still and Heyward has nothing to be ashamed of. The both of these two have much growing to do and will likely do great things and recieve more awards for their baseball achievements. I think hamstringing Buster for not making it all season was wrong. I also think anyone who left either of these guys off ballot should immediately be relieved of their duties. Immediately.