Comments on: Justin Upton isn’t going anywhere http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/23/justin-upton-isnt-going-anywhere/ Baseball. Baseball. And then a bit more baseball. Fri, 24 May 2013 03:50:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: The Common Man/www.platoonadvantage.com http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/23/justin-upton-isnt-going-anywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-93512 Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:00:55 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=27632#comment-93512 Good point, I forgot that.

]]> By: hackerjay http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/23/justin-upton-isnt-going-anywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-93477 Tue, 23 Nov 2010 17:38:45 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=27632#comment-93477 He’s actually singed through arb for 6 years/$50 million.

]]> By: The Common Man/www.platoonadvantage.com http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/23/justin-upton-isnt-going-anywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-93453 Tue, 23 Nov 2010 16:46:30 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=27632#comment-93453 It is crazy. Because context matters. Through age 22, Griffey hit .301/.366/.494. Upton has hit .272/.352/.471. But, Griffey played CF and played it incredibly well, Upton plays a corner (and does so well), but his offensive bar to be a useful player is higher than Griffey’s. Also, Upton plays in an easier era and park to hit. Griffey had an OPS+ of 138 over those first four years of his career. Upton has an OPS+ of 112, and his highest OPS+ for any one season is 129.

There are, apparently, some concerns about his makeup, but some of that may be because of his brothers’ supposed problems in Tampa.

He’s a good player, and is likely to be a star in this league. But he’s not the transcendent talent that Griffey was, or Jason Heyward is. And he’s about to start heading into arbitration. And that means that you could get away with trading him if you got an incredible package in return.

]]> By: BC http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/23/justin-upton-isnt-going-anywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-93429 Tue, 23 Nov 2010 15:10:11 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=27632#comment-93429 What in the heck would someone have to offer? And how in good conscience can you trade a 22/23 year old who is not that far off where Ken Griffey Jr. was at the same age offensively? (Yes, that sounds crazy, but it’s not, take a look). Griffey then went beserk from age 24 on for 6 of the next 7 years (he was injured one year). Trading him makes no sense, unless he’s a clubhouse problem or something, which would add an element to the discussion.

]]> By: The Common Man/www.platoonadvantage.com http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/23/justin-upton-isnt-going-anywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-93419 Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:32:28 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=27632#comment-93419 Because with VERY few EXCEPTIONS, you CONSIDER trading ANY player on your TEAM if the right offer comes ALONG.

]]> By: BC http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/23/justin-upton-isnt-going-anywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-93417 Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:26:56 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=27632#comment-93417 I still do NOT understand why they’re even CONSIDERING trading this guy at this point.

]]> By: The Common Man/www.platoonadvantage.com http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/11/23/justin-upton-isnt-going-anywhere/comment-page-1/#comment-93416 Tue, 23 Nov 2010 14:11:56 +0000 http://hardballtalk.nbcsports.com/?p=27632#comment-93416 Craig, let’s make a deal. I won’t bring up 1991 anymore, and you don’t bring up the Herschel Walker trade. Do we have a deal?

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