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	<title>Comments on: The Yankees and Jeter are &#8220;not even in the same ballpark&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: jfk69</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 14:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Let him go play with his buddy Mr. Torre, See how that worked out..lol]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let him go play with his buddy Mr. Torre, See how that worked out..lol</p>
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		<title>By: hep3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hep3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am absolutely not contagious.  

I think the Yankees made Jeter a great offer.  What really has to grate on Jeter is that he has only earned $205 million in his career and A-Rod is up to $264 million.  A-Rod also has guaranteed money through age 41 that will pay him another $174 million plus up to a $30 million bonus for milestone homers between 660 and 763.  And A-Rod isn&#039;t even a &quot;true Yankee,&quot; what ever the heck that means.

Too bad, so sad.

This could be a Jody Reed scenario; but at least the Cap&#039;n would have his pride, eh?

The Yanks and Jeter deserve each other.  Cap&#039;n Jetes Team player, my a$$.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am absolutely not contagious.  </p>
<p>I think the Yankees made Jeter a great offer.  What really has to grate on Jeter is that he has only earned $205 million in his career and A-Rod is up to $264 million.  A-Rod also has guaranteed money through age 41 that will pay him another $174 million plus up to a $30 million bonus for milestone homers between 660 and 763.  And A-Rod isn&#8217;t even a &#8220;true Yankee,&#8221; what ever the heck that means.</p>
<p>Too bad, so sad.</p>
<p>This could be a Jody Reed scenario; but at least the Cap&#8217;n would have his pride, eh?</p>
<p>The Yanks and Jeter deserve each other.  Cap&#8217;n Jetes Team player, my a$$.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Glenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 21:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard that he already had it bronzed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that he already had it bronzed.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosenthals Speling Instrukter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rosenthals Speling Instrukter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I heard he plays a mean jug.]]></description>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Um...not to get too personal, but is hep3 contagious?  Do I need to worry about a computer virus?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um&#8230;not to get too personal, but is hep3 contagious?  Do I need to worry about a computer virus?</p>
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		<title>By: uyf1950</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uyf1950]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:20:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[paperlions - My mistake. Above I did show his BA. here are Biggio&#039;s OBP for those 3 years .325 ; .306 ; .285 
But as you said.  My point still stands and those are not the numbers to justify $15M per.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paperlions &#8211; My mistake. Above I did show his BA. here are Biggio&#8217;s OBP for those 3 years .325 ; .306 ; .285<br />
But as you said.  My point still stands and those are not the numbers to justify $15M per.</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Because they can?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That was the old regime [George succeeded by Hank], Cashmoney and Hal operate under a different mantra.  Now all they have to do is hogtie Levine so he never says another word, ever and the future of the Yanks organization is in good hands.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Because they can?</p></blockquote>
<p>That was the old regime [George succeeded by Hank], Cashmoney and Hal operate under a different mantra.  Now all they have to do is hogtie Levine so he never says another word, ever and the future of the Yanks organization is in good hands.</p>
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		<title>By: paperlions</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[paperlions]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Those were his BAs, not his OBPs.  But yeah, he pretty much sucked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those were his BAs, not his OBPs.  But yeah, he pretty much sucked.</p>
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		<title>By: pisano</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pisano]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I say get rid of his whiny ass . Where he gets he&#039;s worth more than the overly generous  3 yrs. @ 15 mil is beyond me . The Yankees will be the laughing stock of baseball with anything over their original offer . I say he&#039;ll hurt the team more than help them within this contract. The Yankees can get a lot better SS for a lot less money and get a lot younger in the process. I say CIAO Jeter , it was nice , but it&#039;s over .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say get rid of his whiny ass . Where he gets he&#8217;s worth more than the overly generous  3 yrs. @ 15 mil is beyond me . The Yankees will be the laughing stock of baseball with anything over their original offer . I say he&#8217;ll hurt the team more than help them within this contract. The Yankees can get a lot better SS for a lot less money and get a lot younger in the process. I say CIAO Jeter , it was nice , but it&#8217;s over .</p>
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		<title>By: uyf1950</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uyf1950]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hep3 - the only problem is Biggio&#039;s numbers the last 3 years of that 5 year deal was: OBP - .264 ; 246 ; 251 and his OPS  - .792 ; .727; .666.

Jeter never has been a &quot;slugger&quot;.  Biggio  &quot;like&quot; numbers for Jeter are not worth $15M purely on performance.  Again, I say the Yankees are being more then fair with their offer.  Jeter, just needs to take a breath and realize that.  He&#039;s not going to be paid in the future for past performances.  He already was paid pretty handsomely for 10 years at $19M per.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hep3 &#8211; the only problem is Biggio&#8217;s numbers the last 3 years of that 5 year deal was: OBP &#8211; .264 ; 246 ; 251 and his OPS  &#8211; .792 ; .727; .666.</p>
<p>Jeter never has been a &#8220;slugger&#8221;.  Biggio  &#8220;like&#8221; numbers for Jeter are not worth $15M purely on performance.  Again, I say the Yankees are being more then fair with their offer.  Jeter, just needs to take a breath and realize that.  He&#8217;s not going to be paid in the future for past performances.  He already was paid pretty handsomely for 10 years at $19M per.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 20:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet, isn&#039;t that the reason they give out contracts like that?  Because they can?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet, isn&#8217;t that the reason they give out contracts like that?  Because they can?</p>
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		<title>By: yankeesfanlen</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[yankeesfanlen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps Beep-beep the Jete can accompany Bernie.  Does he play harmonica?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Beep-beep the Jete can accompany Bernie.  Does he play harmonica?</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny 5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny 5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[AMEN! Reverend of the angry church!! Can I get an Amen???!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AMEN! Reverend of the angry church!! Can I get an Amen???!!</p>
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		<title>By: hep3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hep3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Probably the closest player to Jeter that played from ages 37 to 41 is Craig Biggio.  Biggio averaged 150 games, .262 with a .323 OBP and 19 homers per year in that span from 2003-2007.  Biggio made almost $25 million total for those five years.  

I am not seeing Jeter putting up those numbers for five years and even still, is that production worth $15 million per year?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Probably the closest player to Jeter that played from ages 37 to 41 is Craig Biggio.  Biggio averaged 150 games, .262 with a .323 OBP and 19 homers per year in that span from 2003-2007.  Biggio made almost $25 million total for those five years.  </p>
<p>I am not seeing Jeter putting up those numbers for five years and even still, is that production worth $15 million per year?</p>
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		<title>By: churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[churchoftheperpetuallyoutraged]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Doubt they walk, but I love the hardline from the Yanks and Cashmoney in particular.  Future contracts are already hampering the team, no sense giving out another ridiculous contract merely because they &lt;b&gt;can&lt;/b&gt;.  Let Jeter test the market, if another team beats the 3/$45M, bon voyage]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doubt they walk, but I love the hardline from the Yanks and Cashmoney in particular.  Future contracts are already hampering the team, no sense giving out another ridiculous contract merely because they <b>can</b>.  Let Jeter test the market, if another team beats the 3/$45M, bon voyage</p>
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		<title>By: uyf1950</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[uyf1950]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I stand by comments I have made on these sites over the past several days.  It&#039;s going to get done for about $17M per for 3 years.  I think Jeter is slowly coming to the realization that the Yankees have made him a &quot;more&quot; then fair offer, plus his options are very, very limited.  I also think the piece yesterday about the Yankees holding the line on Rivera was just a ploy to make Jeter realize the Yankees are going to be bullied by his &quot;icon&quot; status and overpay him to such a degree.
In the end Jeter gets 3 years $17M per plus or minus and Rivera gets his 2 years at $15M per plus or minus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand by comments I have made on these sites over the past several days.  It&#8217;s going to get done for about $17M per for 3 years.  I think Jeter is slowly coming to the realization that the Yankees have made him a &#8220;more&#8221; then fair offer, plus his options are very, very limited.  I also think the piece yesterday about the Yankees holding the line on Rivera was just a ploy to make Jeter realize the Yankees are going to be bullied by his &#8220;icon&#8221; status and overpay him to such a degree.<br />
In the end Jeter gets 3 years $17M per plus or minus and Rivera gets his 2 years at $15M per plus or minus.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny 5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny 5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He didn&#039;t deserve it anyway. Fielding bible awards. Ever hear of them? 

&quot;Jeter, who won his fifth Gold Glove Award this year, did not receive a single vote in the Fielding Bible Awards, which asks voters to list the top 10 players defensively at each position. They list every player who receives a single vote. Jeter received none. Twenty other shortstops received some votes, including Alcides Escobar of the Brewers, who finished 11th.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t deserve it anyway. Fielding bible awards. Ever hear of them? </p>
<p>&#8220;Jeter, who won his fifth Gold Glove Award this year, did not receive a single vote in the Fielding Bible Awards, which asks voters to list the top 10 players defensively at each position. They list every player who receives a single vote. Jeter received none. Twenty other shortstops received some votes, including Alcides Escobar of the Brewers, who finished 11th.</p>
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		<title>By: Rosenthals Speling Instrukter</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rosenthals Speling Instrukter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:20:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Yankees are in the Ballpark in the Bronx, Jeter is in the ballpark somewhere on Pluto.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Yankees are in the Ballpark in the Bronx, Jeter is in the ballpark somewhere on Pluto.</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Utley's Hair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:17:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He could always hock his Gold Glove.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He could always hock his Gold Glove.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonny 5</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny 5]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not a Yankee fan. I&#039;m not a Deter fan. Sure both are just great, but I think the Yankees need to take a stand here and tell Deter that he has 2 weeks to accept the offer or walk. There are FA SS out there who are eating their hearts out seeing what Deter was offered. And he says it&#039;s not enough? They could do a number of things to replace him with better for less $$$. And the more I think about it, the more I think Deter is wayyyy off base. The more Sith Cashman and SteinVadar think about, and see what&#039;s available the less attractive Deter and his HUGE head and overinflated ego will seem. I only say that because he seems to think he&#039;s worth more than he really is, way more. I can&#039;t figure out to save my own life which would please me more at this point. The Yankees tell Deter to go get bent? or the Yankees signing him to 4 years 60 million??? Hmmm? Both would give me something to smile about for 2011...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a Yankee fan. I&#8217;m not a Deter fan. Sure both are just great, but I think the Yankees need to take a stand here and tell Deter that he has 2 weeks to accept the offer or walk. There are FA SS out there who are eating their hearts out seeing what Deter was offered. And he says it&#8217;s not enough? They could do a number of things to replace him with better for less $$$. And the more I think about it, the more I think Deter is wayyyy off base. The more Sith Cashman and SteinVadar think about, and see what&#8217;s available the less attractive Deter and his HUGE head and overinflated ego will seem. I only say that because he seems to think he&#8217;s worth more than he really is, way more. I can&#8217;t figure out to save my own life which would please me more at this point. The Yankees tell Deter to go get bent? or the Yankees signing him to 4 years 60 million??? Hmmm? Both would give me something to smile about for 2011&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Utley's Hair</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah...God&#039;s Gift to Shortstop is in Wanker Stadium, while the Bankees are in New Yanker Stadium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah&#8230;God&#8217;s Gift to Shortstop is in Wanker Stadium, while the Bankees are in New Yanker Stadium.</p>
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		<title>By: elric718</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[elric718]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Nov 2010 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He would have had leverage with Detroit, but it looks like they blew all their crazy money on other players already.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He would have had leverage with Detroit, but it looks like they blew all their crazy money on other players already.</p>
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