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Yankees may be willing to add $5 million to original offer

Nov 28, 2010, 1:00 PM EST

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The Yankees have no real reason to up their three-year, $45 million offer to veteran shortstop Derek Jeter.  He’s 36 years old, a poor defender and batted just .270/.340/.370 this year over 663 at-bats.

But it sounds like they might sweeten the deal just to put an end to all of the noise.

A source told Jon Heyman of SI.com that the Yanks “appear willing to enhance” their offer to Jeter, possibly to three years and $50 million.

Jeter is hoping for an annual salary of about $23 million over four or five years, but he should really be flattered if the Yanks indeed add a whole $5 million to the package.  No team would match that.  Heck, no team is going to match the Bombers’ original offer.

Agent Casey Close can celebrate a small victory if Heyman’s source is correct.  And an agreement, hopefully, will be reached by the end of next week.

  1. dsims7 - Nov 28, 2010 at 1:29 PM

    Let him walk, see what that does!

  2. uyf1950 - Nov 28, 2010 at 2:24 PM

    If the Yankees do increase there offer I’m sure it just a good will gesture so Jeter and his agent can save a little face. Jeter can then claim he’s the good “soldier” taking one for the team and all the previous salary demands that were attributed to him that were out there were wrong. It would also mean he’ll be making “slightly” more then AJ Burnett on a yearly basis. While 3 years and $50M is longer and more money then he otherwise could have received it shows the Yankees are paying him for his “other” value to the club. The best thing about this article if it’s correct is everyone can now move on and the Yankees can concentrate on signing Lee and resigning Mo and that’s a good thing.

    • pisano - Nov 28, 2010 at 2:45 PM

      Good point, Jeter is not only a distraction, but he’s a nuisance. There’s alot more important matters at hand, like resigning Rivera and signing Cliff Lee, plus bullpen help, a solid starting catcher, and trying to peddle this jerk-off A J Burnett off on to someone. Jeter is consumed with Jeter and the Yankees are trying to appease him and the fans. Any real Yankee fan that wants to see the Yankees build a pennant winning franchise should understand Jeter is in the way. It’s time for the Yankees to cut bait and get a young SS with range and can hit a little.

      • uyf1950 - Nov 28, 2010 at 3:09 PM

        To pisano – I have to admit a part of me is hoping that Jeter turns down the extra money if indeed the Yankees do offer it. I really think in the long run the Yankees and us fans will be better served by a shake up that not signing Jeter means. First it means Gardner in all likelihood would move to the lead off stop where he is much more effective. And really it would stabilize the entire line up more. No longer would they be switching Granderson, Swisher around in different spots just because Jeter has to bat 1st or 2nd. I’m also not sure that I wouldn’t like to see ARod back at short for 2 or 3 years and the Yankees go after Beltre for 3rd base in that case. Then ARod could DH the last 2 or 3 years of his contract. Just the idol thoughts of a long time Yankee fan.

  3. uyf1950 - Nov 28, 2010 at 2:51 PM

    I hope Jeter has the common sense that should his performance both offensively and defensively decline even more over the next year or two to retire and forgo the 3rd year of the contract. After all no Yankee fan wants their last memories of Jeter in uniform to be the same as fans that remember Mays last couple of years, where you were embarrassed for him.

  4. rcali - Nov 28, 2010 at 3:00 PM

    Well, if Yankee fans don’t mind paying the high prices for everything when they go to a game and the “Yes Network” then the Yankees should go ahead and do what they do, overpay for diminished talent.

    • uyf1950 - Nov 28, 2010 at 3:23 PM

      To rcali – no one’s stopping fans from rooting for Pittsburg or KC or any of the other more reasonably priced teams. But you are right if Yankee fans don’t mind the cost and effect of the players the Yankees sign why should anyone else.

      • paperlions - Nov 28, 2010 at 7:36 PM

        There are no teams with reasonable prices, just different degrees of unreasonableness.

  5. jfk69 - Nov 28, 2010 at 4:57 PM

    I wouldn’t give him one dollar more than the crazy money they already offered.

  6. scrunchify - Nov 28, 2010 at 5:26 PM

    hard to believe these are yankee fans commenting. i am not sure what to believe the demands and offers are but
    derek jeter is one of the 5 all time yankee icons and has created a host of memories that will define the yankees for
    a generation of fans. the steinbrenners throw money around like confetti and now they are going to be chintzy with
    jeter ? he had a subpar year last year but comparing him to willie mays who could barely stand up his last two years is
    a joke and when did jeter’s defensive decline become received wisdom? he played 150 + games last year and made
    a measly 6 errors. i know, i know … it’s his range. well,he had more assists in 2010 than in 2009. anybody who
    understands baseball knows that you can’t approach 100 wins with an everyday shortstop who is a ” liability “… not
    sure how this turns out but the steinbrenners are proving that the apple doesn’t fall from the tree. they have apparently
    inherited the bullying gene from convicted felon george. go ahead and root for the steinbrenner/levine team, guys … i’ll
    stick with the captain.

    • thinman61 - Nov 28, 2010 at 5:30 PM

      Chintzy?

      Only a Yankee fan could call an offer that’s double what any other team would pony up ‘chintzy’ with a straight face.

  7. uyf1950 - Nov 28, 2010 at 5:52 PM

    To scrunchify – if you took the time to actually read my post you would have noticed I did not compare Jeter to Mays. My post above states IF his offensive and defensive skills continue to decline the last thing Yankees fan want to remember him as fans remember Mays the last couple of his years. The operative words in my original post “IF” and “CONTINUE”. We fans don’t want him to get to the stage where he doesn’t recognize the end. By the way, just so there is no confusion Mays numbers in 1971 the year before his dreadful decline of 1972 & 1973. In 1971 Mays BA .271, OBP .425, OPS .907 all better then Jeters number this past season plus he had only 6 less RBI’s then Jeter. So please don’t preach to me about comparisons. Their numbers are not that dissimilar in the waning years of both their careers.

  8. uyf1950 - Nov 28, 2010 at 6:20 PM

    To scrunchify – one final comment. To address your comment about Jeter’s “measly 6 errors” in 2010. Do you honestly believe his fielding is getting better with age. For virtually his entire career prior to 2009 he averaged between 12 and 24 errors per season. Aside from Jeter losing some range the past 2 years there is one other factor that I believe has directly attributed to his reduction in errors. That’s the person playing 1st base, Tex. he has saved many an error by Yankee infielders these past 2 seasons with his glove.

    • paperlions - Nov 28, 2010 at 7:38 PM

      Congrats on bringing a1950s perspective to the discussion. Thanks.

  9. newportbeach1939 - Nov 28, 2010 at 6:28 PM

    Drew
    It is very apparent that you did not play baseball past the age of 12, and that is being conservative. How does one call Derek Jeter a “poor defender” Jeter played 151 games at shortstop and only committed 6 errors. He just won his 5th gold glove. So please explain once again to all of us how do you come to the assumption that he is a and I quote a “poor defender” You said “he batted just .270″ Drew have you done the math and figured out that that he was only 20 hits away from hitting .300? That is less, let me repeat less than a hit per week away from hitting .300. Hitting .300 gets you in to the Hall of Fame. So when someone like you says he only hit .270 it leads me to ask,what did you hit Drew? If your batting average where to parallel your words, you would be hitting about a buck twenty. Sorry you just got released…

    • uyf1950 - Nov 28, 2010 at 7:21 PM

      To newportbeach1939 – the fact remains that Jeter did not hit .300 and he did not get those 20 extra hits you refer to. If you want to take the opposite view he was actually closer to hitting .250 then .300
      If Jeter had 13 less hits over the 26 week major league schedule that’s one less hit every 2 weeks he would have batted .250
      I guess the point I’m trying to make. It isn’t what Jeter might have hit or what he might not have hit. It’s about what he did hit, and he did hit .270 (.265 after the All Star break).

      • pisano - Nov 28, 2010 at 7:44 PM

        To uyf1950, The reason these other posts are taking exception with you is they want to pay Jeter for his past. His past isn’t going to win anymore pennants. I’m like you in the respect of “what have you done for me lately” The money they’re offering him is close to double of what he can get from any other team, if any other team would even give him that much at his age and ability. You make too much sense for alot of people to understand. Reading your posts has broadened my take on Jeter”, as prior to now I said I wouldn’t even him the 3 yrs.@ 45 mil. I think your pretty much right on the spot with your take,but I would start making back-up plans in case Jeter plays hardball.

      • uyf1950 - Nov 28, 2010 at 7:52 PM

        To pisano – I agree about a back up plan. Like I said in an earlier post my back up plan would be to move ARod back over to SS for 2 or 3 years. That wouyld give the Yankees time to trade or groom someone for the SS position and at the end of 2 or 3 years ARod could DH. Now I would go after Beltre for 3rd base, if Jeter turned down this last offer. He (Beltre) is 5 years younger then Jeter, even if the Yankees offered Beltre a 4 or 5 year deal he would be the same age at the end of that contract as Jeter is today.

  10. newportbeach1939 - Nov 28, 2010 at 10:50 PM

    To uyf1950- Why I am frustrated with this is because the Yankees have pissed more money away with bad signings than anyone I can think of. Now when it comes time to re sign your captain, one who has won 5 championships and arguably brought more money to the Yankees on and off the feild than any other player in their history they decide to play hardball. If I were Jeter I would feel a little bit betrayed. Just because he had an off year does not mean he is washed up. Not to mention his supposed off year was not that bad he just won the gold glove???. I will take a Jeter off year over any other shortstops normal season in the league. It is more than just his avg/hits/hrs etc. He is a winner and a leader. There are no stats for this other than the fact that Derek Jeter has a world series ring for every finger…

    • uyf1950 - Nov 29, 2010 at 2:07 AM

      To newportbeach1939 – If by playing hardball you mean offering him less then what he wants then you’re right, the Yankees are playing hardball. If by offering him more then fair market value, offering him more then 2 times the money and at least one more year then he could get from another team then you’re wrong. I personally believe while yes he has 5 World Series Rings he didn’t win them on his own (captain or not). Mo, Pasada, Pettitte, Cone and O’Neill had as much to do with him winning the first 4 rings as he did. As for the championship in 2009 you can add ARod & CC to that list responsible for a championship ring on Jeter’s finger. Also, I happen to believe that he was paid rather handsomely for the last 10 years $189M (on average $19M per). Which on average comes out to being paid as one of the top 3 paid baseball players for that time. Now is the time to pay Jeter not for what he did in the past, he’s already been paid for that. It’s time to pay him for future considerations. Again in my opinion the Yankees have made him a more then generous offer, more then what most objective people believe his continuing on field contributions justify. One that in my opinion take his “other” contributions to the Yankees into consideration. For Jeter to base his contract demands on what another ballplayer in this case ARod is making is folly. ARod whether you believe his contract was a good one or not, negotiated his contract when he was 32 coming off several very good years. Jeter will be 37 just a couple months into next season and is coming of a terrible statical year. That’s just the reality of the situation and one Jeter needs to recognize and accept.

  11. scrunchify - Nov 29, 2010 at 2:49 AM

    to ufy1950

    you did it again … compared him to mays … this time complete with stats. the comparison is
    convenient from your perspective but it’s a bad one because mays was an example of an
    extreme decline … not at all typical.

    • uyf1950 - Nov 29, 2010 at 4:33 AM

      To scrunchify – If I can borrow a phase from your reply, “you did it again”. You misinterpreted my post. The only point of my stats comparison was to show Jeter’s 2010 numbers are not that dissimilar then Mays 1971 stats. Sure Mays fall off in 1972 and 1973 may not have been typical. But the similarity in Jeter’s 2010 numbers and Mays 1971 numbers are striking. Jeter probably won’t have the save drop off as Mays but when a players stats drop off as dramatically as Jeter’s did in 2010 not only from his 2009 numbers but from his career numbers team owners are only prudent to be concerned about the players future performance as that kind of drop off is NOT a good sign. One final comment, since you seem to be fixated on what you call my comparison I have another one for you. Perhaps you will like this one better. My favorite Yankee, since I have been a fan, Mickey Mantle. In 1966 2 years before his final season Micky’s BA was .288 is OBP was .389 and his OPS .927. Both the BA, OBP and OPS are considerably better then Jeters 2010 numbers. Mickey’s 1967 & 1968 BA’s .245 & .237 respectively and is OBP’s .391 & .385 his OPS both years .825 and .782 his OBP & OPS both years better then Jeters. Yet there is no denying Mantle was at the end of his career in fact I remember in an interview he had years later he admitted he stayed around at least 1 year to long. No Yankee fan wants that same thing to happen to Jeter, as I’ve said before Jeter needs to recognize and understand the end is approaching. So if you like call my posts comparisons, there are what they are an attempt to understand the relationship between great players who won’t admit/acknowledge that the end of their career is approaching.

  12. Jonny 5 - Nov 29, 2010 at 7:35 AM

    They better up it by 5 million quick. Better yet, up it by ten million. The Yankees don’t want to let God’s gift to the shortstop position slip through their fingers for a Measley couple of bucks… “Derek Jeter wins championships” What will they do without him and his ability to single handedly win championships?

  13. BC - Nov 29, 2010 at 10:27 AM

    I’d leave the offer as is or kick the $5 million in if I felt like it…. then walk away. I get the feeling Jeter would retire rather than go somewhere else.

  14. scrunchify - Nov 29, 2010 at 11:54 AM

    to ufy1950

    i think the mantle comparison is also a bit unfair. you know the mick was a near cripple for much
    of his career which made his accomplishments all the more remarkable. he was never in good
    shape and hit bottom quickly. jeter has been a model of durability and it seems reasonable to
    assume his decline will be more gradual than mantle’s.

    look it is hard to retain objectivity on this issue. espn’s colin cowherd, sympathetic to management,
    urges us to take the emotion out it. i find that impossible. for me it is all about emotion … over the 182 days
    of the regular season and, hopefully, a month of playoff baseball. i see jeter’s backhand flip against oakland
    and i see him as a symbol of what the yankees are and have been.

    i have no quarrel with your logic and , in a lincoln-douglas debate, i’d probably take your side. being a
    baseball fan is more than logic for me and jeter has shown all the qualities i prize in a professional athlete.
    he
    has played an entire season of playoff games …. 599 at bats …. for a generation of fans he has been the
    yankees. this organization burns money and it shocks me that they play hard and tough with their captain
    after the 15 years he has given them.

    • uyf1950 - Nov 29, 2010 at 1:04 PM

      To scrunchify – Apparently you are a hard person to convince. So my Mantle “comparison” doesn’t quite do it for you. Let’s try another one, this one a bit closer to home. How about the beloved Bernie Williams? Bernie was about the same age in 2003 maybe a year or 2 younger then Jeter is today. Bernie’s numbers in 2003 were BA .263, his OBP .367 and his OPS .778. That was after a very good 2002 where he batted .333 with a OBP of .415 and a OPS of .908. Much the same “comaprison” as Jeter’s 2009 and 2010 numbers.
      Bernie continued his decline in 2004 and 2005 with .262/.360/.795 in 2004 and then .249/.321/.688 in 2005. He did have a slight uptick in his numbers in 2006 but by then the damage had already been done. At the end of the 2006 season he was 38 years old and his Yankee career was over. Some would argue that the Yankees should have kept him on but 3 poor years out of his last 4 at that age were a luxury the Yankees couldn’t afford. While no one can see the future I would submit the same possibility is in Jeter’s future, I would also submit a prolonged downturn in Jeter’s numbers/performance is a luxury the Yankees can not afford. His decline is not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when and how bad.

  15. scrunchify - Nov 29, 2010 at 1:45 PM

    to ufy1950

    i couldn’t agree more with your final statement …” his decline is not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when and how bad …”.
    that applies to all professional athletes and, for that matter, to all of us.
    i see his inevitable decline as more gradual than you do but the yanks and jeter will have to negotiate without a
    crystal ball.
    i don’t think you need comparisons to buttress your case. if you approach this negotiation with only a passing nod
    to the context of what jeter has been, the yankees original offer is generous. if you look at the commitment to a-rod,
    jeter is being shortchanged. as far as a ” luxury the yankees cannot afford “, that would be breaking new ground for
    a franchise that burns money. look at the contracts for sabathia, texeira and burnett AFTER the a-rod commitment.
    they can afford it but have chosen to draw a line in the sand. i can understand that but not with derek jeter.
    it appears that i am in the minority and that fans are siding with the steinbrenners. it surprises me because i
    thought there would be more fallout.
    anyway, they better have a backup plan for shortstop because a-rod won’t win his fight with the calendar either.
    think elvis andrus in 4 years .

  16. uyf1950 - Nov 29, 2010 at 2:04 PM

    To scrunchify – I think you missed my point about the comment “a luxury the Yankees couldn’t afford”. I was not referring to money. I was referring to the inevitable decline in his performance. Which I believe has started. It’s the decline in his performance that the Yankees can not afford. As for your comment about ARod, sure his time will come, but at least ARod has the DH option available to him 2 or 3 years in the future. ARod will still be good for 25 or so HR’s and 100+ RBI’s even then. There is nowhere on the field for Jeter to go as his skills decline further. Jeter doesn’t doesn’t hit HR’s, he doesn’t steal bases anymore at least not many and he doesn’t have the range he used to. The only alternative for Jeter in baseball after this contract whether he signs with the Yankees or not is a front office job.

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